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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:18 PM
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Obama: "Caroline is One of My Dearest Friends"; Sen. Caroline, how much clout would she wield?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090116/ap_on_re_us/caroline_kennedy_connections_3

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NEW YORK – As the governor considers a replacement for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Caroline Kennedy has spoken repeatedly of her "relationships" in Washington and her desire to use them on New York's behalf.

Certainly, the 51-year-old political neophyte has some powerful connections, including a special relationship with President-elect Barack Obama, an uncle who is a dean of the Senate, and acquaintances who can help her raise tens of millions of dollars.

But with New York in a desperate scramble for federal funds amid an economic meltdown, it is unclear how much clout Kennedy would actually wield as a freshman senator in a place with rigid seniority rules.

"Frankly, when it comes to getting things done for one's state, it's more a matter of hard work than connections," said Thomas Mann, a Brookings Institution congressional scholar.

Still, on Capitol Hill, relationships matter.

Already, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has spoken publicly in Kennedy's favor. And Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., told The New York Times on Wednesday that she would be thrilled to have Kennedy on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, which Boxer heads.

"So much of politics is personal," said former Democratic Sen. Bob Kerrey of Nebraska. "Liking somebody matters."

Many observers agree that Obama owes Kennedy for delivering a key endorsement at a vital moment in his primary campaign. She became a familiar face on the Obama campaign trail and was one of just three people picked to head his vice-presidential search.

Asked last month on "Meet the Press" whether Kennedy should be appointed to the Senate, Obama called her "one of my dearest friends" but added that he was staying out of New York politics.



Caroline Kennedy is close to her uncle — he gave her away at her wedding and, last year, she rushed to his bedside when he was stricken by brain cancer — and he has reportedly been working the phones on her behalf to help secure the Senate seat.

The good will the elder Kennedy has built with his colleagues over the years would almost certainly rub off on his niece, said former Republican Sen. Alfonse D'Amato. "They are going to embrace her warmly" if she is selected, he said.

"There's a historic magicness about Caroline Kennedy," Kerrey said. "Almost all of them remember her, know her, watched her grow up, know her story, admire the dignity and poise that she's shown over the course of a life, you know, that's been full of tragedy and loss."

The same degree of attention is unlikely to follow the other candidates being considered for Clinton's seat — although a number of them have their own roster of Washington relationships built during years working in the nation's capital.

New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo was housing secretary under President Bill Clinton. And Reps. Carolyn Maloney, Steve Israel, Jerrold Nadler, Kirsten Gillibrand and Brian Higgins have been building connections as members of Congress.

Ultimately the appointment rests with Democratic Gov. David Paterson, who has said he does not want to make an announcement before Obama's inauguration.

Several political observers have questioned the wisdom of using Caroline Kennedy's relationships as an argument for her appointment, wondering if it bolsters critics who believe she is inexperienced, unqualified and getting special treatment because of her name.

"If I were Caroline Kennedy, I'd play down the connections and play up the more personal skills," Mann said. "I think the whole notion of connections is something that's not particularly appealing. It somehow suggests some special advantage."
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:21 PM
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1. probably a little more clout than most junior senators who would b e near last in
seniority (probably Franken will be last when he is eventually sworn in).
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:24 PM
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2. Didn't Obama just meet Caroline during the campaign?
How can she be one of his "closest friends"? Sorry but this is all "politicking" at its worst. Caroline may be a nice person but she doesn't "deserve" an senate appointment.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:49 PM
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12. this is an
an appointment and the Governor will appoint whomever he likes, it is not whoemever deserves it.. otherwise, all qualified individuals being considered will deserve to be appointed.. - there is only cabinet open and one must be chosen. Caroline Kennedy IS qualified.

If Bush was qualifed to be President and so other Repubs in congress right now, so can she... She is an accomplished attorney, she has worked tirelessly for the poor.. She is a professional and respects the constitution...

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:31 PM
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22. So are a of other folks but many are pushing the "entitlement" meme.
I don't think who her dad and uncles were ought to be considered. And if the Governor cares about the polls, most NYers prefer Cuomo.
Frankly , I think this is a Kennedy /Cuomo internecine war , with Kerry Kennedy Cuomo wanting to "get even" and block Andrew because of the nasty public divorce that ensued when he found Kerry in bed with another man. This was supposed to be the merging of the 'dynasties, but it blew them apart instead. She has been waiting for an opportunity to stick the knife in his back since and I think Caroline doesn't really want to be senator but is willing to help Kerry. just a thought.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 04:14 PM
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24. Not everyone is as petty and bitter as you obviously are. n/t
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:29 AM
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26. OH please. This has nothing to do with me. And none of these folks are above reproach!
Many of these folks are just as petty as the average , and yes, I know that for a fact.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 04:23 PM
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25. What? We should not be talking about the nasty divorce or what happened in their private lives. I do
not think that Caroline wants to be in the Senate to help Kerry-Cuomo get even. If Paterson nominates Andrew Cuomo, as much as I would not like it, I would shut up and wish him success as a Senator. However, my preference is Caroline because I think that she would work tirelessly on behalf of the people of NY
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:32 AM
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27. Perhaps we shouldn't but it is out there.I prefer Maloney for the seat . It will be interesting to
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 02:32 AM by saracat
see what happens.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:26 PM
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3. I've heard she's got an uncle who's been in the Senate for 46 years.
Funny how they always forget to mention Teddy when they're trying to pretend she's a nobody.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:27 PM
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4. Caroline can get Obama to stump for the NY Dem candidates in 2010.
If Cuomo is appointed, there will be FOUR candidates on the 2010 ballot that were appointed.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:32 PM
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5. Obama is telegraphing that he will campaign for one of his closest
friends (Caroline) in 2010...I doubt if he would campaign for Cuomo who was not so friendly to Obama in 2008.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:33 PM
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6. Agreed. Cuomo's "shuck and jive" remark still lingers in the air like a nasty fart.
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 01:37 PM by AtomicKitten
edited for link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/10/hillary-supporter-cuomo-_n_80914.html

"It's not a TV crazed race. Frankly you can't buy your way into it," Cuomo said, according to Albany Times Union reporter Rick Karlin. "You can't shuck and jive at a press conference," he added. "All those moves you can make with the press don't work when you're in someone's living room."

The phrase "shuck and jive" refers to mischievous blacks behaving innocently in the presence of an authority figure, so as to lie and get out of trouble.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:39 PM
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7. It floored me when he said that. I was horrified at the blatant
racism of it. And I'm sure Paterson hasn't forgotten it, either.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:44 PM
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9. There were a number of racist remarks that emanated from that campaign
that some of us will never forget, nor should we as Democrats. It was truly a low point in the primaries that will be etched in history, and not in a good way. :(
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:40 PM
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8.  Of course he'll campaign for Cuomo if he's the pick
Haven't you enough evidence demonstrating that Obama is not a petty man? Furthermore, if you think Obama wouldn't campaign for whoever the dem is, you're not thinking.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:44 PM
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10. Yeah, why isn't Geraldine Ferraro going to the Inauguration? Was she busy selling
Girl Scout cookies? Believe me, Obama has a good memory and an easy style but I'll bet you anything that he has not forgotten Andrew Cuomo's despicable and racist remark.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:50 PM
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13. Yep. Obama holds grudges. Just look at Lieberman.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:54 PM
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16. No offense...
No offense but quite a few New Yorkers are despicable and racist. But if you want to talk despicable and racist, who stood beside the governor of Pennsylvania when he said Democrats in Pennsylvania would never vote for a black man? Was it Andrew Cuomo? No, it was Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Be careful throwing the race card. It can be thrown back quite easily with regard to the Clintons who ran an equally despicable and racist campaign during the primary. Which is why so many question why she is at the table. Sitting at the head of the table in some ways.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:12 PM
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21. Point well taken.... nt
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 04:04 AM
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28. Ugh.
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 04:14 AM by MetricSystem
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:06 PM
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20. uh, so Ferraro's in Congress?
Try and grasp that President Obama will care more about maintaining a dem majority in 2020 than he will any slights he endured during the primary in 2008. Pretty basic shit.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:48 PM
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11. No one may care in 2010
At the rate he is "conciliating" us all with his table along with his version of "the crooks come first" bail-out plan, some in New York may not want him to campaign for them in 2010. Especially those who are not Hillary supporters. Some wonder if Hillary would have survived the next election. Some don't believe she would have.

That aside, the other "Kennedy Kids" haven't exactly proven themselves in Congress or anywhere else for that matter. So what makes Caroline so special?

A lot of it is the money. She is the richest Kennedy. Of course the reason why is the Onassis money. There's this "aura" about her because of her mother. Possibly more than because of her father.

You have to wonder how her mother would react if she were alive. She probably would cut off Caroline's allowance.

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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:51 PM
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14. negative.. arent' you?? pls tell us how you really feel about
our soon to be President. You guys are NEVER satisfy..
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:54 PM
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17. It doesn't have a profile.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:55 PM
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19. I have no problem with him..
I do have a problem with his table.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:53 PM
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15. Ah, the latest addition to my ignore list. It's been quite a while since
I had to do that. But this one gives me joy. Buh bye.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:55 PM
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18. Bullshit..that's negative and
stupid.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:37 PM
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23. I think Caroline K would do a good job.
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 02:38 PM by bambino
why wouldn't she work hard? She was brought up in politics
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