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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:05 AM
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Misogyny Kills: Rick Warren, Mark Dybul, and AIDS (Part One)
Misogyny Kills: Rick Warren, Mark Dybul, and AIDS (Part One)
by Nina
January 21, 2009

"Editor’s note: This is Part One of a three-part series on the links between the religious right, President Obama’s “AIDS czar” Mark Dybul, and the faith-based programs that are killing women and girls around the world. Part Two will be published tomorrow, with Part Three concluding the series on Friday.

Earlier this month, many of Barack Obama’s most stalwart supporters were shocked to learn that he had asked Rick Warren, the entrepreneur behind the “The Purpose-Driven Life” products and founder of Saddleback Ministries, to give the Inaugural Invocation. Warren, we now know, has devoted considerable time and resources towards pushing an anti-gay, male supremacist agenda.

President Obama’s AIDS czar Mark Dybul

A few days ago, it became known that Mr. Obama will “indefinitely” extend the tenure of Dr. Mark Dybul, George W. Bush’s Global AIDS Coordinator (a position known informally as the “AIDS czar.”) Since his appointment in 2006, Dybul has been a cheerleader for one of Bush’s most pernicious policies: steering taxpayer dollars toward faith-based organizations that promote conservative Christian activism and “abstinence-until-marriage” AIDS education that victimizes countless young women in the developing world. The decision to keep Dybul has already angered HIV prevention and women’s rights advocates, but there is at least one person to whom this news was manna from heaven.

That person is Rick Warren.

Pre-election, Warren gave candidate Obama a congenial platform and entrée to reach out to evangelical voters. Post election, Obama has given Warren a coveted mainstream platform, and by deciding to keep Mark Dybul, he’s ensured Warren will continue to influence the deployment of funds to fight AIDS in the developing world.

What can women around the world expect when Pastor Rick, who tells women God wants them to be submissive wives, teams up with AIDS czar Dybul, who has gone to bat for faith based organizations that mislead young women about the risk of contracting AIDS from their husbands?

The Fidelity Fallacy

As AIDS czar, Dybul is in charge of the President’s Emergency Plan For AIDS Relief, known as PEPFAR. PEPFAR supports desperately needed treatment for millions of the world’s most vulnerable people with AIDS, for which it is rightly lauded. But PEPFAR has also misspent millions of dollars on a raft of prevention programs that are based on conservative religious ideology rather than scientific fact. In many of the countries hardest hit by the AIDS pandemic, PEPFAR’s notorious abstinence-until-marriage strategy increases the risk that a young woman will contract HIV."

Click on link to read more. Tomorrow is Part 2. http://thenewagenda.net/2009/01/21/misogyny-kills-rick-warren-mark-dybul-and-aids-part-one/
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:10 AM
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1. Faith Based is one of those terms like Unknown Knowns that I was REALLY hoping would not carry over
Just stop it. It's nothing more than payola for religious hucksters in exchange for votes and a crappy inefficient way to distribute aid to people who need HELP, not proselytizing.

Stop it now.
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:13 AM
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2. One can never justify the using of women's bodies and lives for political gain.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:35 AM
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3. Yeah yeah yeah Obama secretly hates women, and gays...
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 03:05 AM by TLM


Because he had a guy speak who has views you don't like or don't agree with... it must be secret code that he hates everything you support. Again this is the same kind of smear by association that the freeps tried with Rev Wright. Folks take the views or statements of someone connected to Obama, search for the most disagreeable ones, then extrapolate out some worst case scenario based on that person's beliefs... and then blame obama or accuse him of covertly supporting that worst case scenario. It's insane.


I agree that these aids prevention programs are far from ideal or perfect, but they are helping millions of people get medicine and education on how to avoid contracting the disease.

So, I just don't get it... how exactly does teaching people not to have sex until they are married, cause aids and oppress women?

I'm the first to question the effectiveness of abstinence only sex-ed programs at preventing teens from having sex here in the US. However it is 100% true that not having sex greatly reduces ones risk of contracting AIDS. "Don't have sex" seems to me to be EXACTLY the message to send on how to avoid a disease primarily spread by sexual contact.

I mean should they just hand out rubbers and say, get busy, no worries? Don't get me wrong, I think they should make condoms available. But if I'm not mistaken isn't a major part of the problem the level of rape and other assorted f-ed up practices over there (which were going on long before any of these programs went into effect to fight AIDS) that won't be helped by condoms or abstinence?

So how is, teaching abstinence somehow the problem? Not being an effective means of prevention, is hardly the same as being a cause.


And for that matter, why is it that gay marriage is a amazing wonderful thing... yet heterosexual marriage is an evil tool of oppression used by the evil male supremacists? If marriage is such a bad thing, which I do not entirely disagree with as a premise, then why do so many gay folks want to do it?
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:50 AM
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4. Here are 4 links to more information about the real Rick Warren -
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 06:51 AM by 1776Forever
Rick Warren churches in Africa that use PEPFAR faith-based money are using anti hate filled GLBT language, along with telling women to stay in abusive relationships even if their husbands beat them.

Untold Consequences: Rick Warren's AIDS Activism
Kathryn Joyce on December 19, 2008


http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/12/19/untold-consequences-rick-warrens-aids-activism

Warren-Endorsed Nigerian Archbishop Backed Anti-Gay Laws Worse Than Pre-WWII Third Reich's

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/warren-endorsed-nigerian_b_153412.html

AND

(Remember Rick Warren's Saddleback Church pays no tax)

Time Magazine: The Global Ambition of Rick Warren
By David Van Biema Thursday, Aug. 07, 2008

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1830147,00.html

(snip)

The halting progress of Warren's PEACE program raises another question: Is he oversubscribed? I ask him how many countries there are in the world. Of course, he knows: "There's 195 countries." I think, 195 countries, and so far, even one seems to be a challenge. As Warren tallies it, he is just 28 years into a 40-year commitment to pastor Saddleback. He has written a holiday book, The Purpose of Christmas. He spent much of the past six months in 20 countries doing purpose-driven training and will be traveling to New York City in November, when 350 churches will do "40 Days of Purpose." As we speak, he is in Buenos Aires; yesterday was Brazil. His networking presents escalating opportunities, but of course, opportunities eat time.

"It's the most amazing thing," he says. "I've had to add a new hat: my statesman hat. I had a call the other day from a President in Africa asking me to contact a President in Asia to set up a meeting." Then there's his business hat: "I put this unbelievably big deal together. The bottom line was $300 million." How did it happen? "A guy called me and asked me, 'Would you call this person?,' and I said, 'Well, it's not my role or anything I aspire to,' but out of it came this huge deal."

.......

All of us really need to watch this guy. Oh yeah, I left out his telling his people they need to love him as much as the Nazi followed Hitler -

Read on:

Follow Jesus Like Nazis Followed Hitler, Rick Warren Tells Stadium Crowd
Bruce Wilson
Posted January 15, 2009

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/follow-jesus-like-nazis-f_b_158295.html

..........

No I am NOT kidding!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:52 AM
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5. Thanks for this post. The New Agenda looks like a very interesting group
and I hadn't heard of them before. I am bookmarking the site now!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:55 AM
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6. k & R nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:02 PM
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7. Back up you go!
:kick:
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