New York Governor Andrew Cuomo

[SuperTrouper]

Get used to it. David Paterson has so mishandled this Carolinegate that he was "shocked that Kennedy was withdrawing" and now must appoint a non-Caroline. What are his options? AG Andrew Cuomo, Re. Kristen Gillibrand, Rep. Carolyn Maloney, LI Executive Thomas Suozzi, and Steve Israel are the front-runners. Picking Mr. Cuomo could lead to a fight with the Legislature, which would appoint the new attorney general. Picking Ms. Gillibrand would anger her more senior colleagues. Choosing Ms. Maloney would add yet another Manhattanite to the ticket; Mr. Suozzi yet another Italian-American; Mr. Israel yet another Long Islander.

GOP Rep.Peter King has just given an interview to the media and is calling this the Paterson Circus; on MSNBC Rep. Carolyn Maloney shamelessly said that it should be someone ready on day one and "I am on that category". The clear picture here is that the biggest loser is David Paterson, who is looking like a bumbling fool, the Accidental Governor who just cannot do anything right. His polling is dismal in Upstate New York and now the Caroline Kennedy associates, who donated big time to Spitzer's campaign will now look to Cuomo or Giuliani. Even if he appoints CUomo to the Senate, believe me, Andrew wants to be Governor and in 2010 he will abandon the Senate to take on Paterson in the Primaries...even if he has told Paterson that he won't challenge him...so, get used to Gov. Andrew Cuomo in the near future...and Senator Kristen Gillibrand.

[bdamomma]

1. I am not from NY, but my choice would be Maloney for Senator

[HeraldSquare212]

5. I thin she's good, but I'd like to see an upstater.

And by upstate, I mean western NY, not the Albany area.

[Thrill]

19. Sounds like the Woman most likely to get it is Gillibrand

[sohndrsmith]

37. Man I hope so. Maloney gave an embarrassing presentation of herself

in that interview - I've never seen her live before, so it was a first impression for me and I was so put off by her performance.

As far as what Rep. King said, I take it with a grain of salt. He's a Republican and they invited him on solely because they knew he'd give an oppositional or negative view, which serves to stir the pot and make people watch. I never get why the news orgs ask for "expert" analysis for something/someone concerning the other party, unless they also ask someone of that party as well, in order to have a debate.

Mahoney wasn't there to debate, she was there to sell herself in a rather crude way so there wasn't really any discourse... (Just my perception of it, anyway).

[ClarkUSA]

2. Don't you mean Andrew "Shuck and Jive" Cuomo?

Racist prick that he is and all.

[HeraldSquare212]

4. Ah, yes. Let's not forget. And don't forget Wiener saying how woefully inexperienced

Obama was. It's one thing to support the candidate from your state, it's another to attempt to savage the other candidates.

[ClarkUSA]

8. Exactly! I am sure Team O won't forget what racist dickhead Cuomo and whiny Weiner said.

"It's one thing to support the candidate from your state, it's another to attempt to savage the other candidates."

Well said. I came to dislike/detest NY pro-Clinton pols for just this reason.

[Cha]

7. I hate all this ragging on Caroline Kennedy

from so called Democrats and as I just posted in another thread..I will be protective of her on here just as I would in real life if someone made a snarky, untrue, ignorant comment about her.

I know this is a non sequitur from your post but I know you can relate and I wanted to vent.:)

I wish the very best for Caroline Kennedy!

[SuperTrouper]

10. Me too. I think that there is a lot of envy here against Caroline. If they

bothered to look at what she has done for NYC public schools, NYC children they will realize that she has dono much more than the other professional politician Senatorial-wannabes, including Southener Carolyn Maloney.

[Cha]

21. I know..if they'd bother to read about

her history instead of a knee jerk reaction ..we'd see some different responses.

Hopefully Teddy will emerge from this health crisis now that he's finally able to do something about his Health Plan for the country.

Caroline Kennedy is a strong woman who cares deeply about our country..not her own political ambitions.

[ClarkUSA]

12. I can totally relate, zidzi. There are alot of hypocritical axe-grinding misanthropes at DU.

You can vent anytime. :hug:

I feel the same way about Caroline Kennedy and I'm sure the Obamas do too, so we're in great company.
I hope Caroline runs in 2010 as she said she would if she didn't become Senator this time around. You
know President Obama will be behind her all the way.

And so will we. :fistbump:

[Cha]

23. Thanks, Clark!

I can't believe I'm defending Caroline Kennedy on a Democratic Discussion Board and it's not just from saying she's not qualified but from nasty jibes from those who don't even know her. Tres Weird.

And, she does have what it takes.

You know what they say and it's true from my experience..when one door closes ..a window flies open.:) :hug:

[ClarkUSA]

32. "nasty jibes from those who don't even know her"

Ain't that the truth? If they weren't so mean-spirited, it'd be funny how some know-it-all DUers think THEY
know what Caroline is really thinking/doing and how the NYT must be covering up for her, etc.

Yes, she has what it takes. I feel badly for her emotional turmoil over her dear surrogate dad's obviously
worsening condition. How horrible it must be for her to face losing Uncle Teddy after all the tragedy and
loss she has been already through in her life?

I hope you're right about that window... I'm sure if her good friend Pres. Obama has anything to say about
it, there will be plenty of opportunity for her in the future to serve.


:hug:

[Cha]

33. Yeah, I'm glad she put herself

out there for us even if it didn't work out this time. I feel like writing her a note and letting her know how much I appreciated what she was wanting to do for New York.

I changed my name in the midst of all this. I decided to go with my real name in honor of our new open Gov.:)

http://www.whitehouse.gov :fistbump:

[ClarkUSA]

34. That's a great idea and I'm sure she'd appreciate it very much.

LOL! I was wondering WTH "Cha" was... I'll miss my buddy "zidzi" but I'm glad I gained "Cha" as a new/old friend. :)

BTW, how will send her the note? I might want to do the same. She needs to know how much people support her.
Gawd knows there are enough "told you so" vultures circling her right now.

[Cha]

35. I've been trying to find a contact address

for her but coming up zilch. Maybe through Teddy..I don't know yet but I bet some way to reach comes up.

I really do want to write you.. I mean her.

[ClarkUSA]

36. Maybe the best way would be to through Sen. Kennedy's office?

His staff is exemplary and loyal. I think they'd want to be of service in this respect... or at least ask Sen. Kennedy if they could.

And you can write me anytime. ;)

[Cha]

38. I just caught

that! :D It will happen in the next few days.

[ClarkUSA]

39. Good.

I look forward to it. :hi:

[Blaze Diem]

16. Maybe she got fed up w/the b.s. and decided her name & clout were worth preserving

She can do more good and choose how & where it is directed by staying independent of DC politics.
Maybe politics simply revealed itself to this fine lady for what it is..b.s.

Perhaps Pres Obama has a greater position for her in mind.
Ambassador of peace & goodwill...
Best to her.

[Cha]

24. That's Blaze for that

nice summary of alternate scenarios.. No one can say our Democratic Political Scene isn't tremenously interesting!

[Blaze Diem]

28. It is an unusual place isn't it./ It would make me crazy in a weeks time.

Its insane.

[FLAprogressive]

30. they'd rather have a DLC-AIPACer like Anthony Weiner or Steve Israel

[Cha]

31. We'll see who Paterson

decides on..rumors abound.

[HeraldSquare212]

3. Huh? Paterson did fine - kept to the schedule he said he would, etc.

If anything, Bloomberg's taken a hit. And I think the Cuomo name still has too many negative associations in the Governor context - it may well be a liability for Andrew.

[BeyondGeography]

6. The same Andrew Cuomo who got his butt kicked by THE Carl McCall?

Not buyin'.

[SuperTrouper]

9. Who, Governor Carl McCall? McCall had the right associations

and there was Cuomo fatigue by that time...and Pataki was popular as the non-Cuomo. Now, most people have forgotten about Mario and Giuliani is still popular in the city. The only one that can beat Giuliani is Bloomberg and Cuomo. Paterson is an awful politician, even worse campaigner than Caroline would have been. Paterson will become an asterisk by 2010.

[Thrill]

13. Most people I know in NY say Guiliani isn't popular out of NYC

How is he going to win it?

[Raineyb]

17. Guiliani isn't popular IN NYC

At least not by anyone I know. Maybe in Staten Island.

:shrug:

Regards

[SuperTrouper]

18. He is very popular in Upstate NY and still has a political machine in NYC

so Giuliani is still a real threat.

[HeraldSquare212]

20. He's seen as a downstater upstate, and what political machine?

There's no such animal.

[Raineyb]

41. By bullying I guess since that's all Guiliani is capable of

And despite what Ghouliani would have people believe the events of September 11, 2001 did not endear him to anyone NYC was more than ready to see the back of him and considering how he ran for President I don't think that changed one bit. Ghouliani is a megolmanical opportunist; always has been always will be.

Regards

[girl_interrupted]

40. Roberto Gov. McCall? Cuomo was vehmently against the death penalty.

McCall was never a Governor. Pataki beat him like a wicked step child, I'm sorry to say. As for Mario Cuomo, "fatigue" had nothing to do with it. Mario Cuomo was vehmently against the death penalty. No way, no how, he was going to bring it to NY. Then the LIRR Massacre. Knee jerk reaction of the voters, after that slaughter, they wanted the death penalty, Cuomo refused again. That was the end of Mario Cuomo. Instead we got stuck with Pataki, who by the way brought it back and NEVER, NOT ONCE, EVER, used the death penalty. Joke was on you voters!

Hey Roberto, what's with your description of Tom Suozzi? Just "another Italian"? That "Italian" was the first Democrat to WIN in over 40 years, the County Executive position, in the uber republican stronghold of Nassau County & has since being re-elected. That also opened the door for Democrat Steve Levy to take the County Executive seat in uber republican Suffolk County. Funny how Andrew Cuomo's remarks so offended you, yet you seem to have no trouble offending other's ethnicities.

As for the rest of our Democratic candidates, all duly elected, all who have contributed to NY, what a put down. The day I start to worry about what Pete King has to say, well...let me put it this way..that's NEVER going to happen.

I had to laugh last week when I saw you praising Ed Koch who could be Joe Lieberman's twin, when it comes to supporting the Democratic party. Koch's 2 articles ""Why Bush is a Hero" and "Why we Should elect Bush" (over John Kerry) tells you all you need to know about Ed Koch. Screw Ed Koch, And Pete King.

Yup Andrew Cuomo will probably be Governor or who knows, maybe Senator in NY. I'll take that over any republican, especially after Pataki. Fine by me, he's done a lot of good here, so yeah I suggest you "get use" to it.

[HamdenRice]

11. Huh? Paterson handled it perfectly

What a lot of horse poop. You expect anyone to believe that the Kennedy's would support Giuliani for anything? That's borderline insane.

And do you think the Kennedy's will support Cuomo against Paterson despite the bad blood between those two families that resulted from the Andrew-Kerry Kennedy divorce?

Paterson did exactly what he said he was going to do and outmaneuvered Bloomberg.

[NashVegas]

25. They Might Not Have Any Love For Cuomo

But how do you suppose they feel about Paterson right now? If he was going to go with someone else, the time to do it was the day after Blago got busted.

The only thing he's accomplished that I can see is that he helped Caroline feel 1/100 of the press ridicule Hillary Clinton was forced to put up with for 7 months and see why her brother chose publishing over politics.

[firedupdem]

14. I wish Carolyn was the one....

I hate she pulled out. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes. I'm not really familiar with NY but I do know that I hate Cuomo. He's a racist piece of filth.

[Skwmom]

15. Ready on day one to play ball with the big money "supporters."

We wouldn't want India to think they were going to lose any of their outsourcing jobs. :rofl:

[Renew Deal]

22. Tom Suozzi should have been governor last time around.

And hopefully he'll get his chance some day.

[SuperTrouper]

42. He may run in the primaries against Paterson and Cuomo

it will be an exciting 2010 in NY politics.

[question everything]

26. I am not a New Yorker but would love to see Cuomo stays where he is

based on his successful going after UnitedHealh that over-charged so many cancer patients for "out of network" fees.

And, in contrast to Spitzer, the money collected went to the victims, not to the state of New York treasury.

[Metric System]

27. Senator Carolyn Maloney sounds good to me!

[FLAprogressive]

29. Why would NYers support FISA enabler / Blue Dog Kirsten Gillibrand?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

43. If that is indeed the case then that's a shame. Gov. Paterson is a great, friendly and effective

governor. Cuomo, on the other hand, is an asshole. He used to be my boss as former HUD Secretary and didn't get along with anyone. He is an arrogant S.O.B., nothing like his humble father. I hope that New Yorkers can do better than that.