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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:46 PM
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BREAKING: NYT - Problem with Housekeeper and Taxes Derailed Kennedy's Senate Bid
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 03:53 PM by MadBadger
on MSNBC..apparently didnt pay taxes on the nanny. I'm looking for the story.

From NYTImes on MSNBC:

1. People close to Governor say these problems arose during the vetting process and had already decided not to give it to her

2. People close to Kennedy say other reasons are for why she dropped out.

More at nytimes.com

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/nyregion/23caroline.html?_r=1&hp
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:46 PM
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1. Those pesky taxes.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:46 PM
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2. Oh My My My
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 03:48 PM by NashVegas
Just got even nastier ... Look how taxes stopped Geitner from being approved.











Oh, wait.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:47 PM
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7. No more Crisco!
And lots of other great DU names changed. This place is going to get confusing.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:48 PM
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9. The Bat Stays
For now, at least.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:47 PM
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3. Gee whiz
Doesn't anybody clean their own house anymore?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:47 PM
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4. WTF?? Why in the hell don't wealthy people pay taxes on staff?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:52 PM
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17. The Leona Helmsley Theory
"We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes ..."
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:57 PM
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21. Oh yeah, I forgot. :)
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:47 PM
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5. oops.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:47 PM
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6. Ok, now it makes sense. paterson was naming her and now we know that CKS had problems with nannytaxe
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:48 PM
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10. I don't know, I think maybe Paterson had his cake and ate it, too.
He made some people happy by seeming perhaps to lean toward appointing her, and now he gets to pick who he wants.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:55 PM
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20. Hmm, a mess across the board. All the dots are connected.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:47 PM
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8. that's plausible.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:50 PM
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12. But Not Believable
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:49 PM
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11. gad. what is it with some wealthy people not paying taxes
as regards household help? It's just not that hard to do. My mother's always had household help and she's never had a problem paying Social Security and FICA. Pretty simple stuff.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:54 PM
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19. I have very limited cleaning help only once a month so I'm under the minimum
before taxes must be paid. But if I had her more often I would pay the taxes necessary. Caroline knows better. What a disappointment she has turned out to be! Obama must be bummed, too...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:00 PM
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23. yes, this is almost certainly full time help.
And a lot of the time the reason that taxes aren't paid on household help is that the employee is not here legally. Not saying that's the case here, but it often is the way it works.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:51 PM
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13. Princess Caroline -- too good to pay her taxes
Taxes are for little people, ya know.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:52 PM
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14. Yup. Just Like Giethner
But not.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:52 PM
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15. hasn't the gov
had her financial records for a while?

Yes, wtf with the taxes, people.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:52 PM
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16. And hubris downs another would-be royal. Christ, guys, just pay your goddamn taxes already.
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 03:53 PM by Occam Bandage
I mean, seriously, it's like the entire party has become allergic to paying its own taxes.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:54 PM
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18. There's something particularly disturbing
about people who don't pay FICA and Social Security on their household help. It really screws the employee.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:57 PM
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22. this is so strange... it doesn't make sense that this sort of issue would
BE an issue at THIS time. Maybe someone was looking for something to derail her possibilities and implied it would be leaked. Maybe not. It doesn't make sense that she would offer this little tidbit as her reason for dropping out 2 days before Paterson was going to announce.

If she knew he wasn't going to pick her, it makes even LESS sense that she would not just do/say nothing and let the appointment just go ahead as planned. This just doesn't make any sense at all...

Whether she was going to be picked or not, these announcements do not seem to be something that anyone would want to put out - unless they didn't have a choice - because it's clearly not favorable news no matter what.

Regardless of being for or against Kennedy, this whole thing stinks on some level...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:00 PM
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24. Oops. Well, there went THAT political career..........
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:14 PM
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25. Whoops! Caught with her hand in the cookie jar!!!
Oh well...

I guess that Cuomo gets the seat now.

Caroline might be able to try again in two or four years, provided she clears up her tax and nanny issues. It didn't look like she was fully prepared for the job this time.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:18 PM
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26. I think we should know more before we condemn Caroline Kennedy regarding
tax issues or her housekeeper.

Just saying...
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:53 PM
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27. Shades of Zoe Baird, Kimba Wood...
Nannygate all over again?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:51 PM
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30. Don't forget Linda Chavez
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:10 PM
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28. True story. When my father became increasingly ill and I had to
manage his affairs and pay around the clock staff, I hired 4 people who had done round the clock care before. After hiring them and having them fill out their data so I could pay withholding, one of them kept hers a little long before handing it in. When it came time for me to pay the quarterly withholding, I asked her to give me the information. She did without her social security number. I ended up having to fire her over it. I reported the wages but the IRS came for me. So, was I royalty, rich, and unfit?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 05:45 PM
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29. Wow just Wow
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:10 PM
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31. We really don't know what happened, except that Dem machines and media were vicious.
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