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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:37 PM
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Anyone think Robers "flubbed" the oath on purpose?
I was talking to a few collegues at work, some Dems .... a few Repubs. I was surprised to hear the 2 Repubs say that they thought Roberts "flubbed" the oath on purpose in effort to see if Obama would 1) catch the gaffe and 2) to get him flustered in the biggest moment of his life.

Does anyone else think Roberts has it in him to be this low and dasterdly?
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VAliberal Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:38 PM
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1. Maybe I'm paranoid -
but when it was happening that was my first thought; intentionality.

If Roberts did not do it on purpose, he is an absolute idiot on several counts.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:38 PM
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2. Roberts was the one who looked like an idiot, so I really doubt it.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:19 PM
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40. You and I and Roberts see with 20 / 20 hindsight. I think right-wing logic fails often. (nt)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:38 PM
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3. Yes it was MIHOP
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:38 PM
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4. That's ridiculous. Roberts' gaffe will live on past him.
It reveals the hubris and the incompetence of a crony b*sh appointee.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:39 PM
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5. No. He's an idiot. And we're stuck with him for 30+ years. nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:41 PM
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12. No one knows how long he'll live.
He has a history of seizures. It could be 30, it could be 10.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:39 PM
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6. I wouldn't put anything past Republicans after 2000, 2004, the faux war, etc.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:39 PM
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7. He blew his raise. nt
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:39 PM
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8. He is well known for his photographic...
Steel trap of a memory. He never takes notes, he never carries notes into meetings. He relies solely on his memory skills.

Yes. It was intentional.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:39 PM
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9. I doubt it, it would serve no real purpose other than make Roberts look bad.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:40 PM
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10. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:41 PM
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11. As it was his first time to administer the oath
And it was Obama's first time taking the oath, I will go with stage fright. Both may have been a little nervous.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:42 PM
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13. I think he did, but when Obama caught him, he felt guilty
and ashamed and apologized.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:42 PM
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14. No
I think he was more nervous than Obama. I think he felt very badly about what happened (for his own sake, and for Obama's sake).
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:42 PM
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15. Whatever the answer to that question might be.... He sure as hell should have...
had a card in the palm of his hand with the oath written on it.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:44 PM
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16. 1) Obama voted against Roberts confirmation. 2)Roberts coordinated thug protests - 2000 (FL recount)
Roberts got his judgeship from Bush because he helped coordinate all those "let us in" pinheads -- sending them to FLA to help stop the recount in 2000. So, he'll do anything to put Republicans in the ascendency and make Dems look bad.

Obama voted against his confirmation, so he obviously doesn't like the guy.

Even if it wasn't a conscious decision, Roberts probably did it on purpose at least subconsciously.

Well, at least we all know how well THIS joker actually knows the constitution. He is AT THE VERY LEAST guilty of arrogance -- not having the words in front of him like most chief justices do.

Constitution-shredding Bushie. That's all this empty robe is.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 09:50 AM
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52. PARTICULARLY when this Fundie OMITTED the word "faithfully" and then tried to tack it on.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 11:13 AM
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54. Empty Robe
:rofl: I like it!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:47 PM
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17. No - not at all.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:47 PM
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18. John Roberts has Crazy-Jesus-Eyes. I don't believe he can think clearly.
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 08:47 PM by Ian David
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:47 PM
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19. pure nerves
When Obama started in before he stopped, it threw him off balance.

Where I was watching (filled cafeteria at UMA), we all chuckled happily and affectionately toward Obama. Nobody questioned that it was nerves on both their parts. It simply highlighted their humanity.

Even the most experienced of presenters can have moments like that. Anybody involved in any way in the performing arts knows that even the most accomplished slip up now and then.

I think the fuss being made over it is beyond silly...
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:47 PM
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20. absolutely yes it was deliberate
Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and I'm expected to believe that he can't memorize a paragraph?
Bull - Sh*t, as my grandfather would say.
I consider it the first of many fifth column moves against Obama.
Of course I could have just been spite, trying to ruin a historic moment.
They don't make mistakes when they're pitching for old money or big business.
Absolutely f*cking yes it was deliberate.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:24 PM
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42. Yes, his plan was to look like a fool forever
.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 06:45 AM
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51. Another mission accomplished
Well it's history now.
We have bigger fish to fry.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:52 PM
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21. No, because he quickly corrected himself, saying the oath properly the 2nd time
why would he plan to say it correctly the second time hoping Obama would repeat the first version rather than the second?

this is straining credulity.

you have to believe a series of ridiculous things.

what makes it most unbelievable is this:

1) a meticulous plan was undertaken to produce a result
2) that meticulous plan was not either not executed properly or depended upon Obama doing one of two likely things (saying it correctly or incorrectly). but the chances that he would were no better than 50-50.
3) this meticulous plan would not be caught and corrected (of course it was)

i just hate conspiracy theories that project cunning, devious and smart plans to accomplish something but upon further review, the actions indicate that if there were plans, they weren't smart or executed with any care.

just doesn't make much sense.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:57 PM
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22. Only The Irrational Or Ignorant.
It's beyond obvious that it was accidental. (Obvious applying only to those of rational mind. Those of irrational or ignorant mind lose the ability to recognize obviousness)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:39 PM
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35. What you said.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:25 PM
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44. "Ability to recognize obviousness"
And yet, tragically, some are born without that ability.

:o
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:01 PM
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23. No, I will give him the benefit of the doubt
I think he knew how the oath goes, and no doubt may have even practiced it, but he had a senior moment, he may be a conservative Republican at heart, but I don't think he did that with malicious intent. What would he gain from that?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:02 PM
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24. We pay this man a high salary and he should have delivered.
reduce his salary.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:09 PM
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25. Hell, just a few weeks ago Roberts was whining that his salary was not adequate.
Guess NOW is not the time to ask for a raise? :evilgrin:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:12 PM
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26. he should take a long furlough!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:20 PM
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27. Yes, I think it was done purposely. I posted a poll here and the results say...
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 09:21 PM by Skip Intro

only 19% of DUers (on the board at the time) agreed...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4885717&mesg_id=4885717


I didn't see the oath live, but as I read about Roberts' flub here, the first thought that sprang to my mind was that it was part of an effort to leave a question of illegitimacy over Obama's presidency.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:23 PM
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28. I Just Think He Was Nervous
I would probably have a hard time reciting my phone number in front of two million people - let alone knowing it was being broadcast around the world.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:24 PM
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29. No ...

I do, however, think he was having an "Oh holy shit this is really happening!" moment that threw him off.

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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:31 PM
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30. No, I just think he had major stage fright
He was stupid not to have it written on a card.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:34 PM
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31. Yes.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:38 PM
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32. No.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:39 PM
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33. Yes
He also interrupted on purpose.
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:39 PM
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34. No
and No
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:42 PM
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36. Nah, he's just a dumb nervous kid
Funny that we all initially thought it was Obama who was nervous, but it was actually the idiot Roberts.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:01 PM
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No, not at all.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:01 PM
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37. No, not at all.
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:12 PM
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38. Roberts has crazy Jesus Lover eyes .....
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:14 PM
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39. No
I doubt Roberts would purposely humiliate himself for all time.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:24 PM
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41. He's just not very worthy as a Justice...
... much less Chief.

Maybe he was even intimidated at the last minute after looking into Obama's eyes and seeing a leader for the first time.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:25 PM
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43. Ugh, just REMEMBERING the way he SAID it makes me want to put my fist through a wall
"...President TO the United States faithfully?"

TO the United States??? TO THE UNITED STATES??????!!!!...:grr:


I just wish there was a reset button and we could back and do it again, but we can't :cry:
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:27 PM
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45. NO. : ) nt
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sam kane Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:32 PM
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46. Give these guys credit for their actions already.
I am so tired of finding excuses for the neocons. From now on they get credit for all meaning to do all of it. Drowning government, and the rest of us in the bathtub, etc.
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relayerbob Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:32 PM
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47. No
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:37 PM
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48. No, I don't think so.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:47 PM
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49. Heckuva job Johnny !
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:21 PM
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50. Sure...
Obama voted against his appointment to the Supreme Court...

and now we know why.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 11:12 AM
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53. No, I just think Roberts was rushing it and that it was a duty he
had to do where he didn't really want to do it. So he was getting it overwith and that rushed things.

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 11:30 AM
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55. Why can't they just accept the fact
that it was a cold day, people were probably very nervous and excited, and let it go at that?

Geez...not everything has some ominous meaning to it....


And I'm not even a fan of Justice Roberts...


sigh...

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 11:39 AM
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56. I think it was sabotage or a power struggle on Roberts part. nt
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