When the "Chips are Down"....Gillibrand is far from progressive

[FLAprogressive]

http://progressivepunch.org/members.jsp?search=selectScore&chamber=House&scoreSort=lifetime_close

"The votes used to calculate the scores in the “Chips Are Down ’07-‘08” column are a subset of the overall votes that qualify according to the Progressive Punch algorithm described above. They show the impact that even a small number of Democrats have when they defect from the progressive position. These are votes where EITHER progressives lost OR where the progressive victory was narrow and could have been changed by a small group of Democrats voting differently. The definition of a vote where progressives lost is one where a majority of the progressive cohort (see list below) was on the losing side of the vote. Narrow progressive victories are defined as votes in which progressives won by 20 votes or fewer in the House (so a shift of 10 votes from one side to the other would have changed the result) or by 6 votes or fewer in the Senate (so a shift of 3 votes from one side to the other would have changed the result). The total number of votes in 2007 that qualified for Chips Are Down was 154 in the House and 167 in the Senate. After we catch up with a programming backlog, we will post the specific roll call vote numbers of the votes that qualified for inclusion on Chips Are Down scores."

Gillibrand is ranked 216 out of 256 (with a rating of 52) for these types of important votes....actually WORSE than noted odious right wingers Charlie Melancon, Jim Marshall, John Barrow, and Mike McIntyre. New Yorkers: Do you want someone who regularly sells out to the right on close votes?

[HeraldSquare212]

1. Overall, she's 86%, 167 out of 434 rated on that site.

I don't know about Florida, but I'm a NYer and I'm happy with the appointment.



WHAT: All issues
WHO: All members : New York, District 20 : Gillibrand, Kirsten


Click below to see a breakdown of the member's scores by issue subcategory.
(e.g. Air pollution under Environment)


ALL ISSUE CATEGORIES Gillibrand, Kirsten
(House - D)

Lifetime Progressive Score (%) Rank


All issues 87.48 167/434



Aid to Less Advantaged People, at Home & Abroad (17 subcategories) 93.48 100/368T

Corporate Subsidies (14 subcategories) 100.00 1/368T

Education, Humanities, & the Arts (3 subcategories) 87.50 167/368T

Environment (15 subcategories) 97.06 31/368T

Fair Taxation (6 subcategories) 88.00 147/368T

Family Planning (2 subcategories) (N/A) -

Government Checks on Corporate Power (31 subcategories) 97.14 42/368T

Health Care (15 subcategories) 93.75 98/368T

Housing (2 subcategories) 100.00 1/368T

Human Rights & Civil Liberties (10 subcategories) 88.89 112/368

Justice for All: Civil and Criminal (7 subcategories) 70.00 159/368T

Labor Rights (8 subcategories) 100.00 1/368T

Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful (16 subcategories) 92.00 100/368T

War & Peace (18 subcategories) 93.88 49/368T

[FLAprogressive]

3. That puts her in the lower half of the Democratic caucus

[HeraldSquare212]

4. Well I'd say about half of the Dems are in the lower half, right?

[FLAprogressive]

8. don't you think that you NYers deserve better than the bottom of the barrel?

[PBS Poll-435]

22. Bottom of the barrel?

90% rating from the ACLU.

http://action.aclu.org/site/VoteCenter?congress=110&repId=28123&session_num=0&page=legScore

96% rating from the AFL-CIO

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/legislativealert/votes/member.cfm?state=NY&pg=1

100% rating from AFSCME

http://www.afscme.org/docs/271-08_House.pdf

0% rating from NRTL

http://capwiz.com/nrlc/scorecard.xc?chamber=H&state=US&session=110&x=12&y=14


Don't let the facts get in the way...

[FLAprogressive]

23. 60% rating from the anti-labor pro repub Chamber of Commerce.

[PBS Poll-435]

24. But LABOR (AFL-CIO and AFSCME) gave her a 96% and 100% rating, respectively

What was your point again?

[nichomachus]

2. These are the most important votes

I don't really care how someone votes on a slam-dunk. What I care about is how someone performs when we really need them.

A good example, my Rep is a brain-dead GOP whore. She is allowed to wander off the ranch on slam-dunk GOP votes and vote for the Dem side, which gives her the aura of being "independent" (as the local right-wing rag will tell you) and gets her a lot of votes from gullible people, thus keeping her in office. However, on the close votes, she always, without exception, votes as she is ordered to by the RNC.

When the chips are down, she votes the party line without fail.

[FLAprogressive]

5. exactly. people here repeat the "she votes with Dems 93% of the time" meme which accounts for ALL

votes....even silly procedural ones or proclamations congratulating football teams

[HeraldSquare212]

6. There also the close votes, which means the caucus is undecided.

[ShortnFiery]

7. Exactly! Holy Joe Lieberman has 90% rating but separates on the MOST important issues (war/taxes)

[Occam Bandage]

9. And when the chips are down, a red-district Congresswoman

is more likely to compromise than a blue-state Senator is.

:shrug:

[FLAprogressive]

11. So she'll switch her positions because she will be changing seats?

That's the sign of a rat.......

[Occam Bandage]

12. No, she'll be less likely to compromise her positions when she's no longer a red-district Dem. nt

[FLAprogressive]

16. So she compromised before because it was politically expedient. Nice.

Sign of integrity right there.

[Occam Bandage]

17. Yes. She compromised because that enables a conservative district to have a liberal representative.

Only people in overwhelmingly liberal districts can afford to play Dennis Kucinich. If you ignore your constituents, you get booted out on your ass, and the Republicans have a hardcore conservative in your place.

I mean, you can point to her having a few bad votes on high-profile issues, but if you look at the whole picture she's pretty darn liberal. You don't get a 100% ACLU rating for nothing.

[HeraldSquare212]

18. Jesus, would you prefer we not have a majority?

[PBS Poll-435]

14. Get out of my brain you odious right-winger!

:P

[MarjorieG]

10. As Rep, answerable to her conservative community; as Senator, and big issues, she'll be fine.

[FLAprogressive]

13. So she'll flip flop because she's changing seats....

that's the sign of an opportunist who will do anything for power. Not integrity

[Occam Bandage]

15. I'd rather have Democrats who throw a few bones to their conservative constitutents

than Republicans in those same seats. And when it comes to Senators, I'd rather have effective and politically astute than ineffective and politically moronic.

[MarjorieG]

20. Developing views new buzz word, and for the big stuff, she's been with us. Let's stop the polarities

[PBS Poll-435]

21. Yet another sign that our public schools are broken

:cry:

[SIMPLYB1980]

19. Oh Noes! We Doomed!

[11 Bravo]

25. Dude! We get it! You don't lke the appointment!

And if she does actually rank #216 on some voting standard, I find that to be an incredible coincidence, because that is the exact same number of fucking posts you have made about her!