Latest Nonsense: Gitmo Protects Human Rights!

[alcibiades_mystery]

The new nonsense coming out of the rightwing: if these prisoners are released to their own countries, they will be tortured and killed. Therefore, Gitmo protects human rights!

Let me explain something: any one of these people who has committed a real crime should be charged in a court of law. Any one who hasn't should be released. If you are concerned about their safety should they be released, we have mechanisms for that: they should be allowed to apply for political asylum. If they are slated for release, they have by definition not committed any prosecutable offense, so the state has a responsibility to protect them against oppressive governments in their home countries.

We don't have to invent a new system. We have sufficient mechanisms in place to deal with all these issues. It's just 8 years of Constitution destroying Bush mentality that suggests otherwise.

[The Magistrate]

1. The Mind Wobbles, My Friend....

[BOSSHOG]

2. Continuing conservative nonsense, destroying the constitution will set us free

question for lurkers, what happened to the terrorist responsible for the world trade center attack in 1993? Do we have to ask, what are we going to do with him?

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. They're in prison where they belong

These are criminal offenses, and must be dealt with by the normal judicial means.

[BOSSHOG]

6. They were arrested

given a fair trial, found guilty and sentenced to life. Doesn't that sound more American, then opening a retaining camp in a foreign country. I've asked conservatives if bush were President for another ten years where would the detainees in GTMO now be in ten years. Their fucking values are insane.

[wmbrew0206]

8. Slight difference because the WTC bombers in '93 committed a crime on US soil

Do US Courts have jurisdiction for offenses that happened in foreign countries?

[Fleshdancer]

4. and it reduces global warming!

because, you see, there are no cows in Gitmo and according to Reagan cow farts cause global warming so if you close Gitmo then you're anti-Earth and the only way to counter being anti-Earth is to drill in Alaska and stuff.

:rofl:

[90-percent]

5. some thoughts

I heard Sen. Spector talking on NPR this morning about Gitmo holding the baddest of the bad. And this is the MSM meme that floats through the airwaves COMPLETELY UNCHALLENGED. I am sure there's maybe at least five total bad ass psycho killers there, but............

most of these poor souls are nothing more than sheepherders in the wrong place at the wrong time betrayed by their countrymen so they could collect the US terrorist bounties that were all over the place at the beginning of our two occupations. I bet many of them are there simply because some other schmuck wanted to get a couple of multi-thousand dollar USA bounties by turning in friends or even people they didn't like. The credibility of so many of the accusers is crap and I think America made their decisions on who to imprison with a shoot first, ask questions later, and let God sort them out, kind of Gung Ho mentality we had in the early days of our occupations.

I would GUESS that two thirds of the Gitmo population is made up of innocent people that were in the really wrong place at the really wrong time. And we treat such people in the same manner as the sliver of bona fide terrorists there.

It is still a stain and a grave injustice my country perpetrated on so many innocents.

So just how many down there are really bad asses, anyway?

-90% Jimmy

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. We put John Wayne Gacy on trial and in prison

We let murderous assholes like John Gotti go home when they were acquitted. Only the most spineless Republican idiots want to throw out the Constitution because somebody is "the baddest of the bad." Supporters of Gitmo are cowards, plain and simple.