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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:28 PM
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Kerry: Torture weakened America's national security

Commentary: Torture weakened America's national security

By John Kerry
Special to CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Thursday was an important day for the rule of law in the United States of America.

With a handful of signatures to executive orders, President Obama ordered the eventual closure of Guantanamo Bay prison and CIA "black site" prisons, and placed interrogation in all American facilities by all U.S. personnel under the guidelines of the Army Field Manual.

In a season of transformational changes, these are among the most meaningful, because they send a powerful message that America's struggle against terrorism will once against honor some of the most cherished ideals of our republic: respect for the rule of law, individual rights, and America's moral leadership.

The president understands all too well that the threat our nation faces from terrorism is all too real. And we should all agree that sometimes, in the name of national security, it is necessary to make difficult ethical decisions to protect the American people.

However, I and many others believe that the use of torture and indefinite detention have not only tarnished our honor but also diminished our security.

In this global counterinsurgency effort against al Qaeda and its allies, too often our means have undercut our efforts by wasting one of our best weapons: the legitimacy that comes from our moral authority.

Torture plays directly into a central tenet of al Qaeda's recruiting pitch: that everyday Muslims across the world have something to fear from the United States of America.

From Morocco to Malaysia, people regularly hear stories of torture and suicide at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, and other overseas prisons. The result has been a major blow to our credibility worldwide, particularly where we need it most: in the Muslim world.

Once permitted, torture and lawlessness are not easily contained. Coercive interrogation techniques found their way from high-level terrorists at Guantanamo to low-level detainees at Abu Ghraib.

Years later, images of abuse there remain fixtures across the Arab and Muslim world. And as John McCain has argued, the use of techniques like waterboarding leaves its scars on a democratic society as well.

Torture elicits lies -- not just from those experiencing it, but from those who seek to conceal it. After years of Orwellian denials and legalistic parsing, what a relief it was to hear our new attorney general-designee finally acknowledge what we know to be true: that yes, "waterboarding is torture."

As we move forward, President Obama is wise to "reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals" -- but the American people should know that closing a prison conceived outside the rule of law will not be easy.

Reclaiming Guantanamo and its inhabitants into our legal system from what former Vice President Dick Cheney called "the dark side" will be an enormous challenge and a thicket of thorny legal and policy issues.

However, we are already seeing the international system reorganize itself around an America that is willing to be a moral leader. Countries such as Portugal and Ireland have made welcome offers to join Albania in resettling detainees who cannot be returned to their home countries. Already we are seeing the fruits of a good faith effort with our allies.

Still, it will take time and effort to overcome numerous hurdles, many handed over from the previous administration: looming questions about the inadmissibility of evidence improperly coerced; the difficulty of returning detainees -- including many cleared for departure -- who would face torture or worse in their home countries; and the fact that we already know some released from Guantanamo have returned to the battlefield.

In some cases we simply lack evidence to charge men we know to be extremely dangerous to the American people.

And even as we embrace long-overdue change, we owe it even to those we believe made grave mistakes to acknowledge the urgency of the moment they inherited, the sacred responsibility to protect American lives which they strove to honor, and the humbling reality that there are no easy answers when it comes to such life-and-death matters.

But the American story is one of perfectibility and striving for ever-greater fidelity to our ideals -- it is a journey from colony to republic, from slavery to freedom, from sexism to suffrage, from stark poverty to shared prosperity. The president himself famously said, "The union may never be perfect, but generation after generation has shown that it can always be perfected."

It is true that today we face unprecedented, unorthodox, and vastly destructive enemies that respect neither borders nor rules of war. But this is not the first new challenge America has evolved to meet. Sometimes that evolution requires us to admit mistakes, learn from them and grow as a nation.

The desire to do better has always been a core part of America's greatness. Last week Barack Obama and his administration wrote a new chapter in that old story.



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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:37 PM
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1. Kerry gets it right, again. Torture has tarnished our image and weakened our security.
K&R!!
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:37 PM
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2. Oh, how our last four years would have been. From a foremost expert on this.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 01:15 PM
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11. Of course,
The last EIGHT years would have produced NO NEED for GITMO at all if only....ah, if only! :cry:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:43 PM
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16. We have a second chance...
...now to get things right. I wasn't sure we'd get another try...so I'm trying hard to be hopeful and focus forward.:patriot:
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:40 PM
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3. That is why Bush and Cheney need to go to jail. They have done
SPECIFIC damage to the national security. That have done Bin Laden's job for him.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 03:52 PM
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4. Bush and Cheney
are war criminals in the eyes of many in the international community.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:25 AM
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6. There's been plenty of proof of that, but corpmedia won't allow it into discussion.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 04:11 PM
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5. Corporate media would not discuss this when he made this an issue in 2003-4.
The famous names in our party wouldn't show up on TV and back him up on this, either, before that election. Most were publicly sided with Bush on terrorism and war decisions and would not risk sticking their neck out for the country or for the Dem nominee.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:33 AM
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7. Biden said pretty much the same thing on Face the Nation Sunday
And they are both right. Torture does not do anything for our country's ideals, for our freedom, to stop terrorism, nothing. I am glad some Dems are saying this as its the truth, the MSM just has to learn to deal with it.
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:20 PM
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8. Kinda makes you long for what could've been if Ohio hadn't have been been tripped up..
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 12:21 PM by latte_liberal_86
And if not for Rove&Ilk's Swiftboating, Bush campaign/admin fearmongering, etc, etc.. doesn't it? *sighs* But I am so pleased with President Obama and his administration thus far and am so happy things like this are being acknowledged more openly now, with him at the helm and people like Senator/Chairman Kerry to voice it from the Legislative Branch. He will always have my full admiration and support! :)
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 01:31 PM
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13. If by 'tripped up' you mean...
...he was elected, but not inaugurated, I completely agree. :7
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 01:54 PM
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14. You read my mind. ;) Just imagine what might've been if not for Blackwell and all the ilk..
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 01:55 PM by ObamaKerryDem
Still is and will always be a damn shame. *sighs* But it made getting Ohio this time around (and by a decisive margin, not to mention Florida) that much sweeter. Ah, Karma was quite the bitch to the Repubs this time around, was it not? :evilgrin:

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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:39 PM
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15. It was...
...a little 'hard fought and hard won' karma. :7
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:38 PM
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19. Definitely! :D
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:25 PM
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9. More importantly, it was against the law and must be prosecuted.
My biggest fear is that the wingnuts will be successful in framing this issue in 24 terms; I have heard them refer to that bit of fiction as proof that torture is necessary and works. Nothing could be further from the truth and I hope Kerry continues to reiterate that. Those swayed by that nonsense must be corrected.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 01:04 PM
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10. Kerry is absolutely right. If he only had only shown this kind of resolve against * . . .
we might not be in the siutation we now find ourselves.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 01:29 PM
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12. He DID show resolve against...
...* . And He IS right.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:08 PM
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18. He DID - bigname Dems wouldn't back him up as they sided with Bush's policy at the time.
Kerry called for Rumsfeld's job THREE Times in 2003-4, especially when Abu Ghraib matters became known, and the big name Dems would not give him back up - probably because they knew Bill Clinton had approved torture during his term. Bill Clinton used his 3 week booktour in summer of 2004 to not just SUPPORT Bush on his terrorism and Iraq war decisions but vigorously DEFENDED Bush.

Even Biden wouldn't back up Kerry as he supported the war and Rumsfeld's leadership, until, of course AFTER the election, then both he and Hillary decided that was the time to criticize Rumsfeld.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:50 PM
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17. Kick
Too late to recommend, but a phat kick. :kick:
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