John McCain: I will not support Obama's Plan

[SuperTrouper]

Arizona Senator John McCain took aim Sunday at President Barack Obama’s first landmark bill, an ambitious package of spending and tax cuts to boost the shrinking economy.

“As it stands now, I would not support it,” McCain, who lost the presidential race to Obama in November, said on “Fox News Sunday.”

Obama’s “post-partisan” era is off to a rocky start as negotiations over the $825 billion recovery package devolve into the usual bickering between Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) promised Sunday to bring a House-crafted package to the floor later this week. But Republicans lined up for the Sunday shows to express their opposition.

“If it’s the plan I see today, put me down in the ‘no’ column,” House Republican leader John A. Boehner said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “A lot of Republicans will vote ‘no’ because they see this as a lot of wasteful spending.”

Obama has reached out to Republicans repeatedly since winning the White House and will make another trip to Capitol Hill to Tuesday to appeal directly to GOP lawmakers in the House and Senate.

Pelosi, who made it clear last week that Democrats are now in charge, argues that Republicans have had ample input in the recovery package.

“Because Republicans don’t vote for it doesn’t mean they didn’t have an opportunity to,” the speaker said on ABC’s “This Week.”

“There needs to be a major rewrite if we want to stimulate the economy,” McCain said.

McCain’s words notwithstanding, the dynamic in the Senate is shaping up to be far less partisan than that in the House, with the White House already trying to broker a compromise with chamber Republicans before Democratic leaders unveil their own legislation later this week.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090126/pl_politico/17956_1

[RT Atlanta]

1. fuck you old corpse

n/t

[Aloha Spirit]

2. Why did you change McCain's statement from "would not" to "will not"? Just curious.

[SuperTrouper]

9. Not done on purpose. He will not support the plan as it is written now...McCain made a grammatical

error in his statement, mine is correct, I think:

"I would not support the plan as it is written now"
"I will not support the plan as it is written now"

[Aloha Spirit]

15. McCain is free to use the subjunctive tense in that way...

don't you think the title distorts McCain's statement?
It suggests McCain has already decided how he will vote.

[SuperTrouper]

20. McCain will vote "NO" unless Obama changes his plan to his liking...

[Aloha Spirit]

21. It's still misleading. I'm sorry you don't see that.

[SuperTrouper]

22. I see it, but the point is that he will not vote for this plan, so "I will not" is correct.

[Aloha Spirit]

23. Knowingly falsely attributing a quote to someone... is correct? I guess I will exercise my right

to not open your threads

[SuperTrouper]

26. Ok. I respect your opinion.

[SuperTrouper]

29. Here is a quote from Faux-Phoenix: "McCain Will Not Vote for Stimulus

as it stands now"

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8310286&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[TayTay]

3. John McCain, who owns 10 houses, opposes action on the Jobs Bill

That should be publicized. Sen. McCain has declared that efforts to boost the economy and help the vast numbers of unemployed go back to work is "wasteful spending."

Maybe if the rest of us had 10 houses we could fall back on in hard times, we would feel as John McCain does. Otherwise, this is just more salt in the wound of those who are already hurting.

[louis-t]

32. I hope he's losing as much on his Real Estate

as everyone else is.

[SuperTrouper]

33. he is not losing...it is Cindy, that's why she wanted to go to Dancing with the Stars

[liberalmuse]

4. And good men died in Viet Nam.

While this POS returned. I'll never understand how this Universe works.

[tularetom]

5. OK don't vote for it asswipe

It'll pass without your effing vote and you'll continue to look like a senile fool.

[DJ13]

6. They're coming for you John

[Thrill]

7. There is a reason Obama won and McCain didn't

[ShortnFiery]

8. That's the MAVERICK that we know and loathe.

:(

[ErinBerin84]

10. and

he said "As far as I know", there are no incorporations of Republican ideas. As far as you know, have you even read it yet Johnny? They aren't willing to compromise on anything that is not 100% tax cut bullshit.

[Aviation Pro]

11. Have you learned nothing, Senator Angry Old Prick?

...that it's President Obama with 58, soon to be 59, Senators? Wanna bet the President passes along to Harry Reid the following, "hey, Harry, I've given these scumbags and douchebags a chance, call for a vote and if anyone wants to filibuster, hand them a phonebook and tell them that there's a truckload of them parked outside. Start reading motherfucker."

[VADem11]

12. Who cares what he thinks?

He didn't win because he doesn't understand economics. He's a washed up old senator who will be a footnote in history. Obama shouldn't give a damn what McCain thinks.

[AndyA]

13. This from Mr. "The Fundamentals of the Economy Are Basically Sound"

Like he knows anything. If it weren't for his rich wife and his Daddy's connections, McCain would be nothing. (He's really nothing in spite of these facts.)

The Republicans have the nerve to complain wasteful spending.

Iraq = WASTEFUL (unnecessary war, no-bid contracts, work paid for but not done, no checks and balances)

The Republicans want to talk about waste after the fiscal damage they've done under Bush? Right.

HYPOCRITES! :eyes:

[tekisui]

14. Good. I'll remember that when you try to take credit for its success.

[Nite Owl]

16. President Obama made a big outreach

to the GOP and especially McCain so now he cannot be the one labeled as not cooperating, it's all on them.

[whistle]

17. What would AZ loose if the stimulus plan is defeated?

...Plenty and the republicans know this and as the plan is implemented the economy all over the country will re-surge. That's why they oppose it because they know what they've been advocating has harmed the economy and brought about this meltdown

<snip>
Obama's $825B stimulus plan includes spending, tax cuts
Updated 1/16/2009 1:14 PM
By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama's $825 billion plan to jump-start the economy and create or save up to 4 million jobs includes twice as much money for spending as for tax cuts, setting up an early battle with Republicans in Congress who favor a different approach.
House Democrats unveiled the first details Thursday of the package, which is likely to change — and get even more expensive — as it moves through the House and Senate. Obama wants it on his desk by mid-February.

The emergency package includes $550 billion to be spent within two years — more than the government spends annually on programs not including defense and benefit programs such as Medicare and Social Security.

About $318 billion would go to cash-strapped state and local governments facing the prospect of layoffs or tax increases. The money will go toward such things as school repairs and road construction and help pay for rising Medicaid costs.

An additional $102 billion would help victims of the recession with unemployment insurance, health care, food stamps and job training. Jobless aid, available for up to 59 weeks, would be increased by about $25 a week. Much of the $275 billion in tax cuts would go to middle-income families in the form of $1,000 tax cuts ($500 for individuals). An array of business and other tax cuts would make up the remainder.

<MORE>

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-01-15-obama-stimulus-plan_N.htm

[dbonds]

18. Spineless has been, he knows better but has been told to play the game.

[mtnsnake]

19. Fuck McCain, fuck Rudy Gullini, fuck Limbaugh, fuck all the Bushes, fuck Nancy Photenfucker

or whatever the hell that bobblehead's name is, fuck the Cheneys, fuck 'em all!!

[treestar]

24. Ah, shaddup, McLoser

[11 Bravo]

25. Damn, you're one mavericky old mother-fucker!

[dcindian]

27. Now where is that reaching across the aisle post when you need it.

LOL

[zulchzulu]

28. What part of "you got your tired ass kicked" don't you understand, Johnny Songbird?

The hell with Kumbaya... it's time to finally destroy the Repigs...

[SuperTrouper]

30. Agreed. Obama "won" decisively and the Dems too. F-ck the GOP they are powerless.

[Delphinus]

31. Can anyone list

what the wasteful spending is? I'm not sure I've seen it.

[AnnieBW]

34. And after O gave him a dinner and everything!

So much for bipartisanship.

[ObamaKerryDem]

38. Oh, I know..where is the damn gratitude? LOL.

I knew the "common ground" would end up being narrow and shifting. The RW has the man owned in a lot of ways; the pathetic campaign he "ran" made that painfully obvious. He's probably afraid the GOP here in Arizona will boot him out next year if he conceeds TOO much to President Obama....; "Myth of a Maverick" indeed..

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

35. They got their fucking tax cuts, what is he crying about now?

[TwilightGardener]

36. They don't want to pass anything helpful. They don't want the economy to fail

under Bush/GOP rule and then get turned around under Obama/Dems. They want another Depression, they want all Dem policies and ideas to fail, they want a miserable electorate who scorns the Dem party--and then maybe, just maybe, they can restore themselves to power in 2010 or 2012. Limpballs openly admitted wanting Obama (and thus the nation) to fail.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

41. I know. And all I'm asking is that President Obama and the Dems take notice of the

Repukes and their schemes. As I stated earlier, the Repukes only want to give the appearance of supporting the president, all the while they plan to obstruct any piece of legislation they can. The problem is that the media is giving them so much airtime in which to propagandize their talking points. You would have surely thought that the Republicans won an overwhelming victory in November; they were all over the Sunday morning talk shows yesterday. And yet, some DUers are coming after me for making these comments. I don't want Obama and the Dems to lie down and get fucked. I want them to stand up for core Democratic Party principles, just as the Republicans tend to do. One reason why the Republicans seem to win is that they never back down. It's a quality that makes me so jealous because I would like for the Democrats to do the same for once. Just once! They won an convincing victory; Obama won a convincing victory. And yet all this talk of bipartisanship has not persuaded the Republican party to cooperate. The president needs to understand that he cannot be fooled by these right-wing nutcases!!

[TwilightGardener]

43. I agree--they're like a pack of hungry power-starved hyenas right now, ready to

howl and attack at the first stumble or show of weakness by Obama or Dems. All wild animals are most dangerous when they're backed into a corner. I hope Obama holds to his pledge to hear them out and pursue any good ideas they might have, but he must recognize that most of them do not have the nation's best interests at heart, and that they will turn on him in lightning speed.

[paparush]

37. Note to McCain Camp - Um..the losers don't get to make history.

[TheKentuckian]

39. Good...good...good

Soon the Republiscum will demonstrate that they only wish to undermine our citizens and we will be allowed to roll over them without care or regard.

[Splinter Cell]

40. ?

Is this old fart still around? I thought the election would have finally convinced him nobody cares what he thinks.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. Who still gives a flying fuck what grampa thinks. Go back to the attic you loser.

[Phx_Dem]

44. Fine. Then step aside old man. You know less about the economy

than I do, as you proved so well in the election. You know, the one where you lost by a landslide? STFU.

[FrenchieCat]

45. Sore Loser!

[DainBramaged]

46. I love this thread, some of the best replies are my exact thoughts on old McSame

Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle.

[ErinBerin84]

47. I also saw

someone asking McCain the other day about Rush's quote, and of course McCain pulled a "Ummm, I would have to see the context", just like when he was asked about the Colin endorsement.

[Life Long Dem]

48. McCain never fails to show what a crook he is.

I hear the Democrats will squeak by with a win on this package anyway, but Obama wants to show cooperation from the Republicans so there's not a chance of any problem in February when he signs the bill. That's why he'll be speaking with only the Republicans tomorrow.

But me, I'd love to see the "Keating Five" thrown in McCain's face again!

[Hippo_Tron]

49. McThuselah followed by saying "We didn't have a stimulus at the Hanoi Hilton"

And "How dare the President of the United States disagree with a POW."

Actually on second thought it's really not fun now that the election is over...

[Divine Discontent]

53. but you KNOW he was thinking, "should I POWicize this comment? no no, that didn't work in Nov" eom

[Deja Q]

50. John McCain to the Americans in 2008: I will not act serious in my campaign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/16/john-mccains-debate-faces_n_135214.html

Oh, he also said Americans wouldn't pick lettuce for even $50/hr and promptly buggered off when people took him up on the offer.

McCain, you're McLame. Go McAway.

[Lex]

51. He wants America to fail = he is a Rush Limbaugh Republican.

imho

[DCBob]

52. McCain is irrelevant.

He has lost all credibility he once had.

[polichick]

54. McShame found a way to feel like a big man again.

[bullwinkle428]

55. I hope this wrinkled old piece of shit's actions will make Obama

slightly more cynical about "reaching across the aisle" in the future...nice payback after Obama's class act of hosting that dinner for him the night before the inauguration!