Again, how is Gregg appointment different from Blagojevich?

[HardWorkingDem]

I don't get it. Yes, Blagojevich was accused of trying to "sell" Obama's seat and trying to enrich his own pockets, but how is the Gregg issue any different? The Republicans are striking a quid pro quo deal just like Blagojevich and very little is being said.

While on their face, these two things might appear to be quite different, but underneath they are very similar and too few people are saying jack shit.

A couple of months ago when Blagojevich's problems came to light due to his arrest, I met a man from a different state who was flummoxed over all the uproar simply because this is the crap that goes on day in and day out. Now, this is not to say bad behavior should be excused because every one does it, but instead, why don't these reformers really enact measures to stamp it out?

[WeDidIt]

1. So how much is the governor asking to be paid for his appointment?

OOPS!

There goes your argument, right out the fucking window.

[MNDemNY]

4. Is there any "value" in a Republofuck appointment?

OOps there goes YOUR argument right out the fuckin' window!

[WeDidIt]

7. What personal value to the governor of Vermont

So much for your argument, yet again.

[MNDemNY]

21. Do you think this has no "personal" value to him?

[WeDidIt]

23. Then present the personal value he has gained

It must be tangible to be a violation of the law.

Put it up, or shut up.

[HardWorkingDem]

8. Again, broader terms....

From everything to K Street payouts to power in the Senate. Republicans are receiving benefits from keeping the Senate at 59 Dems. Imagine if it was at 60 and how smaller amounts of money will be headed the Rethuglican way because the Dems have a supermajority.

And if you don't think there are more latent benefits, then why the hell did McConnell push so hard for this deal?

[Occam Bandage]

15. And in really broad terms, didn't Blagojevich do a "bad thing?" And didn't Hitler do a "bad thing?"

So in really broad terms, how is Blagojevich any different from Hitler? Remember, no specifics. We're only talking in broad terms.

:crazy:

[HardWorkingDem]

6. Think in broader terms...

The entire republican party is gaining interests from this deal that is being made where the Gov will appoint a Republican to Gregg's seat. Just like Blagojevich, there is a quid pro quo. Do something for someone and they'll do something for you.

[WeDidIt]

9. Read the fucking law

The law pertains to personal gain.

What personal gain does the governor of Vermont receive for appointing a Republican?

[HardWorkingDem]

14. Again, think in fucking broader terms...

I don't know if you are trying to be funny or what...if you are, try a different sort of humor, if not, then fuck off.

[Occam Bandage]

17. Fucking broads? How sexist can you get? Alerted.

[HardWorkingDem]

18. What?!?!?

Are people going nuts here or what?!?!

[WeDidIt]

24. Think in tangible terms. How much money is it worth to him?

Zero, that's how much.

[MNDemNY]

20. I'm not sure, we should ask him.

But, mind you, there is something gained.

[global1]

10. Quid Quo Pro Isn't Always Dollars........nt

[Occam Bandage]

13. And horse-trading isn't always illegal.

When you demand personal enrichment, it is.

[TwilightGardener]

2. If the governor expects payback for his appointment, then it's the same.

Otherwise, no.

[MNDemNY]

22. I'm sure he "expects" future consideration.

[Clio the Leo]

3. because "Blagojevich was accused of trying to "sell" Obama's seat ..."

"and trying to enrich his own pockets."

Couldn't have said it better myself. ;)

[Life Long Dem]

5. Whoaa.. I'm getting dizzy

Governor Gregg? Or Senator?

[global1]

11. What Is Feingold Saying About This?........nt

[HardWorkingDem]

16. Feingold: "Alarmingly Undemocratic".....over at Talkingpointsmemo...

a bit of HIS words...


"But the apparent behind-the-scenes deal-making that went on to determine who will fill Senator Gregg's vacancy is alarmingly undemocratic."

Just part of the main quote...

[Occam Bandage]

12. How much is the N.H. governor demanding in bribes, again? nt

[onenote]

19. let's compare

Judd Gregg indicates that he'll accept a position as Commerce Secy if the governor of NH will replace him with a republican.

I suppose that would be the same as the illinois situation if Obama had said that he wasn't going to accept the presidency that he just won and would stay as a Democratic Senator unless Blago agreed to appoint a Democrat to replace him.

Is that what happened in Illionis? Nope.

[PVnRT]

25. I'm not happy with this pick...

...but your comparison is nonsense.

[democracy1st]

26. its not its a backroom deal with only sorry ass dems on one side...sad

[PBS Poll-435]

27. Maintaining a Republican in that seat is a "fucking valuable thing"

For that asshat McConnell.

[Phx_Dem]

28. It's not that hard to differentiate between legal and illegal.

What don't you understand? Blago's alleged deal was illegal because he wanted cash. The NH Gov has not asked for anything in return for his appointment.

I am not at all happy with the "agreement" between Gregg and the Gov, but the Gov can pick whomever he wants and if he wants the seat to remain Republican because the voters elected a Republican (Gregg), that is not illegal or even unsavory. Just pisses me off because he's a Democratic Governor.