What's wrong with Obama?

[Boomerang Diddle]

Why isn't he consulting with us on DU before he makes a decision? Doesn't he understand that we know better than him how he is to run his administration and thus the country? Doesn't he understand he is beholden to DU? Damn him! Damn him to hell!

And if he doesn't hurry up and give Howard Dean a job, any job, whether he is qualified for it or not, I think I'm gonna blow!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[T Wolf]

1. Of course he does not consult with us peons. The problem is he seems to be taking

more advice from the cons and pukes in power than the Dems he shares a party with.

[marylanddem]

4. exactly.

[jenmito]

9. Right. I'm sure he's consulting with the freepers instead. n/t

[Boomerang Diddle]

15. I think he's smart enough

to make his own decisions.

[OwnedByFerrets]

21. The last one made his own decisions also....didnt work out so well....

his job is to listen to the people and do what is best for the country.

[Political Tiger]

23. You're comparing Barack Obama to George W Bush?

Oye vey!

[OwnedByFerrets]

22. The last one made his own decisions also....didnt work out so well....

his job is to listen to the people and do what is best for the country.

[Political Tiger]

25. I'm not so sure

"The last one made his own decisions!"

[HughMoran]

19. Sucks that he can't think for himself huh?

I wish everyine was as smart as you.

[merh]

2. LOL

:rofl: :rofl:

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[bunnies]

3. Howard Dean isnt qualified for HHS?

Get a clue.

[Boomerang Diddle]

6. Here's a clue:

I never said anything about HHS, now did I?

[bunnies]

7. Ok. So find me a thread where people are pushing him for something else.

Something he's not qualified for. It should be easy since theres so many people on DU doing it, right?

[Boomerang Diddle]

11. I'm not going on a thread hunt

Besides, I heart that's against the rules....to call out other posters, but I have seen several people demand that Howard Dean should get this job or that job, and I'm not saying he shouldn't! I'm just saying that Howard Dean is a big boy and his life will carry on even if he doesn't get appointed to some federal agency and that President Obama has a right to pick who he deems best qualified for whatever position.....and continually whining about Howard Dean is not going to change anything.

I like Howard Dean and would welcome him being in Obama's administration but there again, my world is not going to come to an end if he doesn't end up in the administration and I highly doubt that Howard Dean's world will come to a crashing end either.

[bunnies]

26. Of course you're not.

Posters who talk out of their asses never back up their bullshit claims. Its wayyyy more fun to mock people for the fuck of it.

[melm00se]

5. i know that you are being

sarcastic (I hope) but you bring up a good question:

What's wrong with Obama?

4 of his proposed administration members are coming in with a lot of baggage:

Richardson - alleged pay for play corruption charges
Daschle - tax issues
Killefer - tax issues
Geithner - tax issues

Who is vetting these folks?
What does this say about Obama:
Does he have the power to push a culture of ethics?

[Boomerang Diddle]

8. 4 out of how many?

Most of Obama's nominees have passed with flying colors, so nobody talks about them. However, the 4 with problems get all the attention, so much so that one might get the impression those 4 are the only people Obama has appointed to his administration!

And frankly, look back at other administrations....this happens to them all. They new president appoints people and always several end up pulling out because of some sort of ethical reason, usually taxes or undocumented housekeepers.

[melm00se]

17. 1 is too many

especially if you have pledged a high level of ethics and compliance with the appropriate laws in your administration.

the problem is, as I see it, that the Bush administration lowered the bar so low that any improvement is viewed as "whooohoo!" but compared to previous (pre-Bush) administrations, it's just not acceptable, especially as it revolves around taxation:

http://www.treas.gov/irsob/

[Political Tiger]

24. We live in an imperfect world

populated by imperfect human beings.

[melm00se]

27. but how do you miss

at $128k tax screw up?
a $50K tax screw up?

You'd have to be pretty fucking imperfect to over look these amounts:

$128K in owed taxes is overlooking anywhere between $360,000 and $450,000 in taxable income, even it it's stretched out over several years it's still a boat of load cash per year that wasn't accounted for.

$50,000 is the tax owed on $140,000 to $170,000 in taxable income (and in Geithner's case we know it was spread over 4 years so he missed accounting for $35 - 42K a year in taxable income).

I wish I could be that imperfect and (presumably would have) gotten away with it had I not been tapped for a cabinet position....both you and I know that if it had been you or me or a republican, the former would be in jail and the latter would be attracting the torch and pitchfork crowd here at DU.

One has to hold everyone to the same standard or the standards mean nothing and one falls into the hypocrite category.

anyone who says that this is ok, sounds just like the freepers when they were defending the indefensible over the last 8 years.

Don't try to explain it away! Demand the highest level of integrity in our elected/public officials! if they can't or won't, then out they go!

[natrat]

10. that's not even the troubling aspect-alot of them are corporate shills

[Boomerang Diddle]

13. So Obama should pick people with no corporate experience at all?

You'd rather he pick people like Joe the plumber instead? I mean, Obama needs the best qualified people around him, and I think that's what he's doing. We shouldn't automatically hold their past job resumes against them just because at one time or another they held a job we consider to be unworthy of respect.

[KittyWampus]

14. the issue mentioned was taxes. So because you have another issue with them you decide

to jump on anything.

[KittyWampus]

12. I think if we went over your tax returns with a microscope we just might find a tax issue

especially if you worked several different jobs over the last few years.

[melm00se]

18. $140K mistake

($128K in back taxes and $11K in interest) is not a microscopic mistake (Daschle)

ditto for ~$50K (Geithner)

Killefer's tax issue (~$900) is microscopic but a lien is not something that you can really overlook - the tax payer did get served, have an opportunity in court and a 30 day notification during which you can dispute/pay the lien amount.

[HughMoran]

20. All but one have been disqualified

Seems like it's hard to find good people these days.

[AspenRose]

16. Dammit where's my pony?

[WinkyDink]

28. Good one, Sen. Daschle!