Do you want universal health care or do you want Dean?

[Radical Activist]

Poll question: Do you want universal health care or do you want Dean?

Universal health care will not be easy to pass. Howard Dean is a divisive figure with no experience in Congress, is hated by the Republican members of Congress and some of the Democrats.

Do you want someone who can get a good universal health care plan passed or do you want to reward Dean with a patronage job? Where are your priorities?

[TheBigotBasher]

1. False poll

I want Dean because I believe he can deliver the Obama plan. Which is not quite UHC.

[Radical Activist]

5. Why?

Why is Dean more able to deliver the Obama plan than someone who served in Congress?

[Zodiak]

19. Perhaps because he already delivered one

Are we all forgetting that Dean brought universal health to Vermont?

He has experience in this area that no other potential nominee possesses.

[cyclezealot]

11. Yes. False Poll.

Or maybe, we'd rather have a health care plan that does not work. I'd hope Dean would shame them into getting the system the American people deserve.

[supernova]

2. The two are not mutually exclusive

Regardless of who's at HHS, WE are the ones who are going to have to exert pressure on Congress (esp the repubs and DLCers) to pass UHC.

They won't come up with it on their own. We will have to do it for them. In short, they will have to be too terrified NOT to pass it.

edit: That is OUR job. }( }(

[AndyA]

4. Yep. And we've got to somehow let it be known that they WILL NOT

get re-elected unless we DO have UHC. And we know there's going to be a lot of resistance.

[Radical Activist]

6. What is your priority?

Someone who has actually passed a bill in Congress before or Howard Dean?

[supernova]

10. A passed bill with no substance isn't a winner either

which is what Daschle would have given us... in all probability.

Sorry, I want a bill that addresses actual problems with actual solutions, not a peaon to the insurance industry.

What is your priority?

[brentspeak]

3. Option 5: An honestly-worded poll devoid of false choices

[Radical Activist]

8. The poll reflects my honest opinion.

You're free to disagree, but complaining about the poll isn't an argument.

Which is more important to you? Having Dean or someone who knows how to get a bill through Congress?

[Zodiak]

24. If your opinion was used to create the poll, then you admit bias

Did you ever consider that people might have other opinions and that those opinions should be presented honestly as poll choices?

And I would like to have Dean precisely because I think he can get this bill through Congress...or at least he'll be effective because he knows the process from the executive branch...something a legislator knows shit about. this is not a legislative appointment.

You false dichotomy makes you intellectual dishonest on this issue, and it is transparent.

[Radical Activist]

25. gasp! bias!

This isn't right wing talk radio. Bias isn't an ugly word here.

The poll is meant to spur a discussion about priorities.

[Tesha]

29. Y'know that "push polling" is illegal in New Hampshire, right? (NT)

[Radical Activist]

37. ZOMG!! I HOPE THEY DON'T THROW ME IN JAIL!!!

It's a discussion board. You don't like the poll. Too fucking bad. Get over it and discuss the issue it raises.

[Tesha]

42. Discuss the question? Golly, so I did below using the immortal words of Marisa Tomei! (NT)

[Every Man A King]

7. Congrats

You managed to make a poll dumber than the Taliban one.

[rurallib]

9. !!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Better Believe It]

12. I want single -payer health care, Medicare for All!

Now is Dean for that?

[Radical Activist]

13. No.

Unless he changed his mind recently.

[mmonk]

14. A Republican could get another insurance company plan through.

But I really don't want that. It's time to grow a pair.

[leftstreet]

15. You mean Universal Health Insurance, right?

:shrug:

[Radical Activist]

17. Like Dean's old plan?

I prefer single payer. But at least Obama's campaign plan doesn't force everyone into the insurance industry.

[leftstreet]

20. "force everyone into the insurance industry"

You do realize that's a RW talking point.

[Radical Activist]

26. I usually hear it as a left wing talking point

by those who support single payer.

[NorthCarolina]

16. I want Kucinich

It's common knowledge Kucinich is passionate advocate for Universal Single Payer Health Care for ALL (HR 676), he's thorough, he's fair, and above all, he's not a quitter. I have little doubt that given a platform and a budget he could easily rally the public in demand of single-payer. Kucinich would be my choice anyway.

[trueblue2007]

18. I want something like MEDICADE for all

I am sick and tired of paying almost 200 bucks a month for a really rotten insurance. I want insurance as good as Congress gets.

Who is gonna give me that???

That is who I want.

I DEMAND THAT.

[harun]

21. Jeesh, you do polls for CNN too?

[Maven]

22. It's too bad there's no time left to change your username

to "Centrist Shill."

Truth in advertising, my friend.

[Radical Activist]

27. It was already taken

by Dean.

[Sebastian Doyle]

33. Chad?

Is that you?

[avaistheone1]

23. Another big vote here for a Medicare for all system.

:kick:

[Tesha]

28. To quote Marisa Tomei: "It's a *BULLSHIT* question!"

But if it weren't a bullshit question, I'd pick Howard Dean
because he'd likely *GET* us universal health care.



Tesha

[Radical Activist]

31. well

Marisa Tomei was great in war inc

[rcrush]

32. I think Marissa Tomei is hotter today than she was in My Cousin Vinny.

[Radical Activist]

34. agreed

most definitely.

[ddeclue]

40. Quick somebody make a poll on the subject..

:rofl:

[Radical Activist]

41. good idea!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8482384&mesg_id=8482384

[camera obscura]

30. I voted for the second option, but only because your poll is so ridiculous. Being contrary is fun.

[eridani]

35. I don't give a shit about bills leaving private health insurance intact n/t

[MrSlayer]

36. I don't think we'll get either one.

I'd like both but we'll get neither.

[Better Believe It]

38. You're probably right. We were suppose to get Medicare for All a few years after Medicare was ....

passed in I think 1965.

44 years later we're still waiting for the Democrats to pass Medicare for All.

[backscatter712]

39. I want a Secretary of Health and Human Services that is hated by the Republicans!

That means he's doing something right!

[JNelson6563]

43. Stupid poll.

False choice. You're either not too bright or intellectually dishonest. Sad either way.

Julie