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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:24 PM
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A whopping 1.44% of the proposed stimulus bill is what Republicans are whining about
www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/02/gop.stimulus.worries/index.html

The link above characterizes the waste the GOP says is in the bill.

This amounts to about $13B in "pork" as defined by the GOP. So 13/900 * 100 = 1.44%

Some of this I can agree with but what is so bad about the mississippi flood reduction projects, or the Amtrack improvements, or turning federal buildings into green buildings???

If these morons in the GOP are so f*****G concerned with that small amount AFTER Obama acquiesced to their requests for more tax cuts for business, IGNORE WHAT THEY WANT AND DO WHAT YOU WANT!!!!



P.S. STOP WITH THE DAMN TAX CHEATS; IT'S KILLING YOUR MOJO!!!!
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:26 PM
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1. If the spening created jobs and gets money moving
through the economy, then it's alright with me.
Strange how the Cons care about excess spending seeing they spent the country into a hole.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:28 PM
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2. I was wondering what the total was. Take out some of the more objectionable items
(specific tax breaks for Hollywood producers!!!), and pass it without any GOP votes and make them pay at the next electino.


(In the end many GOP will vote for the final bill)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:30 PM
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4. 5% of the WPA budget
went to the arts. They're doing it again and we're too stupid to fight it.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:09 PM
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7. That was before the 'arts' became America's largest industry and # 1 export earner


Movies alone are a mega billion industry and don't need government help.


They aren't talking about supporting WPA type local artists, they are talking about giving movie producers a tax break on film purchase.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:37 PM
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11. It was for small, independent film makers
Yes, they were talking about supporting local artists. But go ahead and jump on board with Republicans and then wonder why our country stays fucked up.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:55 PM
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12. its still a hundred billion dollar industry, one that has the highest export dollars

the highest return of investment and the highest net profit of any product manufcatured in the US except for the electronic gaming industry which is closely tied to it and helps further increase their bottom line with merchandising dollars.


Support for independents should come from the industry and in fact does with lots of special projects by Hollywood and of course they have their own television channel and film festival and foundation thanks to Redford.

But go ahead and continue to make completely anachronistic comparisons to the depths of the depression and the WPA when large segments of the industry had collapsed and thousands of professional artists were thrown out of work. And of course the analogy further breaks down in that the WPA artist projects were integrated into existing WPA projects so that it was integrated into existing projects.


And when your facts aren't there and your historical reference is groundless throw in an irrelevent insult to party affiliation which is also without logic or fact. I don't think that the Democrats in Michigan or Ohio who have seen hundreds of thousands manufacturing jobs evaporate are happy to see stimulus money that should be directed to the hardest hit areas and the moste deeply effected industries now sent to help add jobs in an industry that continues to bring in record world wide sales figures and is well known to be relatively recession proof.


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:59 PM
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13. It doesn't matter, this is so fucked up
it isn't going to work anyway. Nothing is recession proof, and certainly nothing is depression proof.

What they need to do is pull out all the health care, social services, arts, teaching, and anything else related to women and call it the Women's Economic Package because nobody will get it through their head who these programs hire unless they do.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:29 PM
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3. Huffington Post has a project to help them
identify pork and beat up the Democrats.

I can't believe how Democrats are getting duped by this tripe.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:32 PM
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5. They have a lot of nerve
acting all huffy and offended. But they do that best. After waging the Iraq war and pouring money into that sand-trap fiasco, quagmire, oil grab. They should be lined up for an old fashioned firing squad. No blindfolds. They have worn them long enough.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 04:43 PM
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6. I fully agree
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:43 PM
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10. thanks
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:15 PM
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8. Yeap, good point....dems are HORRIBLE at framing issues.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:19 PM
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9. You keep blaming Republicans. Have you seen Conrad and Nelson on TV?
They're out there trashing the plan.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:27 PM
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14. The media is a mess.
They are supposed to be holding feet to fire, last I heard.

But they aren't supposed to hold just one person's feet only!
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