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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:45 PM
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What does Chavez, CNN, Repigs, Sirota, Iran, MSNBC, Walsh, Limbaugh and Brazile all have in common?
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 05:46 PM by FrenchieCat
They are all criticizing President Obama today!

Barack is soooo lucky in that besides being handed to most fucked up economy ever,
those who crave attention have figured out that they can get that attention,
by piling-on President Obama to celebrate his first two weeks in office. :eyes:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:46 PM
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1. He's a Democrat. I'm sure he expected this
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:49 PM
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2. It sure looks like Obama isn't being given any honeymoon.
I'm finding it very hard to listen to the news this week.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:51 PM
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3. yep...the media is singing in perfect harmony today....
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:52 PM
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4. Freepers were calling for impeachment before he was ....
inaugurated. I predict dems will call for impeachment before the year is done.

Oy. That's all I can say.

Oy friggin vey.

He's one of the smartest people around, so surely he saw it coming. Still, it's very disheartening to watch.

He's not perfect, nor will every action or choice be perfect, but I support him. And while criticism is healthy and welcome in an open society, at some point it becomes about tearing someone down.

I support our new president; I hope those being so overtly critical are doing so with good intentions, and not to tear him down. Obviously that's the Limbaugh Republicans' goal; I wonder about others.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:52 PM
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5. Expectations are high for Obama so the criticism is higher.
That is the way it goes, its not fair but what are you gonna do?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:52 PM
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6. The 1st black (biracial) president will find no shortage of critics
The bar has been set much higher for him since he came out his mothers womb and it won't change now. Its something he will have to deal with and he knows it.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:47 PM
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33. You're so right about that, but if anyone can handle the racial double standards, it's Obama.
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 06:48 PM by InAbLuEsTaTe
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:54 PM
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7. Sirota has legitimate criticisms and so does Chavez
Sirota is criticism some of Obama's policies, especially the economic stimulus and the bank bail out programs. Chavez would like to improve relations with the US but doesn't want to deal with Bush policies with an Obama face.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:55 PM
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8. Chavez is an idiot. Sorry, but the man does not allow a free press in his own country
He should not even be taken seriously.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:57 PM
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11. And that's simply untrue. You can't be taken seriously as an expert on Venezuela. n/t
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:14 PM
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41. Free press exists in Venezuela
Chavez did not eliminate it not does he imprison journalists. He just didn't renew a certain tv/radio station's license. This tv/radio station supported the 2002 coup against Chavez. If the same thing happened to Bush, all the coup supporters would be in Gitmo or dead.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:58 PM
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14. Chavez is a moron. He basically called Obama an idiot for his energy policy
and you're saying he has legit criticism? He just doesn't want the US to be energy dependent.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:59 PM
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16. Link?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:02 PM
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19. Turn to CNN. They've been playing an interview with him
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 06:05 PM by Thrill
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:03 PM
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20. I can't do that, Dave.
lol

Seriously, I can't stand them but, I'll go look at their website.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:08 PM
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22. Is this the story you mean?
Hugo Chavez has scorned Barack Obama’s plans to set the United States on the road to energy independence.

The Venezuelan president told CNN it would be “very difficult” for his American counterpart to wean the country off foreign oil.

(snip)

Mr Chavez is a long-time foe of Washington; at one point likening George Bush to the devil.

But he said he would welcome a return to relations enjoyed under the Clinton administrations if America began showing ‘respect’ to the rest of the world.

http://www.shropshirestar.com/2009/02/03/chavez-doubts-obama-energy-plans/

(I don't see any scorning language except in the headline and in the first sentence -- no direct quote. Maybe I will go see CNN. yuck.)
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:14 PM
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27. In the interview they've been playing
He said the Wool has been pulled over Obama's eyes. He said that Obama doesn't know anything about Energy Policy.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:17 PM
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28. Okay -- now I have to find the words. One caution:
Both Obama and Chavez are targets right now. Obama, because we knew they'd come after him sooner than later. Chavez, because there is a vote in Venezuela on the 15th that the corporati want him to lose very badly.

It's a smear natural right now. And, I'll go try to find what the guy said.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:22 PM
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29. This is the CNN write up. There is no disrespect to Obama here:
CARACAS, Venezuela (CNN) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said he supported U.S. President Barack Obama's efforts to find alternative energy sources but doesn't believe the United States can do it.

"I don't know how he will achieve what he said he would," Chavez said in an exclusive 30-minute interview with CNN en Espanol's Patricia Janiot Monday night. "It's very difficult for the United States to diminish its use of oil."

The United States, a major Venezuelan oil consumer, needed petroleum "like air, like oxygen to live, to survive," Chavez said.

"We employ thousands of workers in the United States," Chavez said. "We give aid to hundreds of thousands of poor families in the United States with our heating oil program."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/02/03/venezuela.chavez/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Did they leave something out? The thing is, after following Venezuela for some time, it's my impression that Chavez, like a LOT of leaders in Latin America, couldn't wait for Obama to get in. So, when you read that Chavez is "slamming" Obama, you have to ask, qui bono? :shrug:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:32 PM
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30. Here is the video
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:42 PM
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31. Chavez says that perhaps Obama's advisors have softpedaled
how hard a switch from oil to green energy will be. He says he believes it will be very difficult for the US to get off of oil.

He at no point insults Obama, let alone, calls him an idiot. :shrug:

In fact, following the energy discussion and on to the relations discussion, Chavez says he hopes relations can be restored to the cordial level they enjoyed with President Clinton. :shrug:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:59 PM
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34. Did you listen to the whole interview?
http://search.cnn.com/search?type=video&sortBy=date&intl=false&query=Hugo&x=0&y=0

"He said the Wool has been pulled over his eyes. He's just getting there, and doesn't know very much about Energy Policy"

How is that not an insult?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:08 PM
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35. Yes, I did. Chavez was saying indirectly that Obama may not know
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 07:09 PM by EFerrari
entirely what he's getting into -- although, as Chavez said three times, he supports the project. He wasn't trying to insult anyone, he was trying to say that it's going to be a hard thing to do. :shrug:

Maybe it's a cultural thing. Chavez was not dissing Obama. Think of it this way: do you seriously believe that Chavez was hoping for McWar? Or that if Chavez decided to insult Obama, there would be any room for doubt? If Chavez wanted to insult Obama, we'd know.

I bet you my good dog, Chavez and all the other left leaning leaders are very happy Obama is in the White House. If you hear different, you need to be a good news consumer and ask, who is spinning this and why are they doing that.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:56 PM
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9. Chavez wants good relations with us -- so, look for the nutcase media
to play up anything at all that comes out of his mouth because "peace" is not a story.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:10 PM
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23. Chavez already slammed Obama and was being an asshole again today. Just because you and a small
contingent on DU like to sugarcoat Chavez doesn't mean the rest of us have to pretend he's a wonderful guy.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:12 PM
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24. Do you normally get your instructions from strangers on the internet?
Or, is that only on topics you know nothing about?

Chavez has criticized Obama for not being more active re Gaza as far as I know. What else is there?

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:56 PM
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10. He is, by far, the worst first black president ever!!!
:rofl:

None of this piling-on surprises me...it's what they do.

Though they didn't do it nearly so consistently with G.Bush, so far as I recall.

:shrug:

.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:57 PM
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12. Obama sucks.
I mean, what the hell? Ya see a bandwagon, ya get on. Maybe it's going somewhere interesting.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:00 PM
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17. I expected this to start last week. They're late!
lol

:)
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:06 PM
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21. Jeez. One of these days I'm gonna get used to your new name.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:13 PM
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25. Boo!
lol

:)
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:58 PM
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13. One factor that has worked against Obama is that he basically became
"President" after the vote in November. He spoke out on issues where he could and became a face for the direction we would go as a country. Now that he has only been in office for two weeks, he is being assessed by all of his critics and opponents as if he has been in office much longer. The perception is far different than the reality.

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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:58 PM
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15. What did Donna Brazille say that was objectionable?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:01 PM
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18. We might want to consider that the whore media will spin like frisbees
before we turn on the people whose words they use to attack Obama -- otherwise, they get a twofer. :shrug:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:43 PM
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32. I'd like to know this, too! n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:45 PM
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36. We have to be ready for the media to set us against each other.
And to go back and double check before we go off half cocked. In other words, don't buy into it until you know for a fact because you checked it out that it happened.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:43 AM
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43. Uh, OK. I was just wondering what Brazile said. It would be
strange for her to be going off on the President.

So I was only curious what the OP was referring to.

Maybe it was just a generic example of watching out for what the MSM is blathering on about.

Frankly, I have tuned out in the last week altogether becuase I cannot stand the tone.

Yesterday, when I switched over during a commercial and had to listen to Andy Cooper talk about his "hard-hitting" interview with the President, including questions on whether he is still smoking and their new dog, I decided I have to keep it off for another week.

That doesn't mean that I'm checking out, it means the only affect of watching the news right now is to raise my ire and blood pressure, I don't learn anything new, so why bother.

((My exception, right now, is BBC, where I can actually learn new facts.))
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:47 AM
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44. I did the same thing. Cut everything off and then when I switched
back I heard about smoking and a dog! I'm done for a good long while. These assholes are ridiculous!
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:14 PM
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26. Iran, threw me off.
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 06:14 PM by Life Long Dem
Nah...Obama's got it easy.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:49 PM
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37. I am going to go with, Obama...
does not give a fuck what those goons have to say.
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snowsman Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 08:05 PM
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38. Are they criticizing him for a good reason or a bad reason?
That's very important.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:24 PM
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39. For any reason.....
whatsoever.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:26 PM
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40. The President's going to get criticized.
That goes along with the job. This won't be the last.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:40 AM
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42. I understand that.....
But I'm seeing a sharp shift right in time for President Obama attempting to rally support for his Stimulus Plan. That doesn't bode well for us.
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