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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:32 AM
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Should Bill Clinton be considered for HHS?
I think so, and I believe he would accept if offered.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:33 AM
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1. No.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:36 AM
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2. Hell no. (nt)
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:37 AM
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4. absolutely...HELL NO
that would make this a three ring circus and a complete distraction
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:36 AM
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3. oh, hell no. Good grief. n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:37 AM
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5. no, and I'm curious why you'd suggest it
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:41 AM
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10. Because he is the only one that can get package done and approved. IMO.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:59 AM
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18. And you think that because he did so well the first time he tried?


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:14 AM
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like in 1993
Do you remember from last year, that HRC's genuinely important contribution to S-CHIP, which Kennedy and Hatch got passed, though the Senate had 55 Republicans was to persuade Bill Clinton to sign it and put funding in the budget. That was the program that she cited often as her healthcare credential - and her role was bringing Bill on board for what was the biggest expansion of government provieded health insurance in decades.

You might also look at the nearly 1000 page autobiography and see how much is dedicated to this - hint - it seemed to slip his mind.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:43 AM
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29. He would be a distraction.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:39 AM
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6. BIG...
HELL NO!

Why can't we have a new administration with new ideals and methods?
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:39 AM
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7. Too much of a step down. nt
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:39 AM
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8. All these talks of Bill Clinton taking a spot lower than the President of the US are ridiculous
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 10:40 AM by TeamJordan23
No President would do that to themselves. Especially, one with a big ego as Clinton.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:40 AM
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9. In a word.... No n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:42 AM
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11. Yes. Just to freak out the freepers. nt
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:43 AM
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12. No...I like him but:
1) Former Presidents rarely if ever want to take that giant step down. The only one I can think of is John Quincy Adams who later served in the House as a Congressman. Taft made a somewhat lateral move to the Supreme Court after being President.

Former Presidents are better off as "elder statesmen" who can serve as special foreign envoys for the current President and who can create foundations to do charitable works like Clinton or Carter have done (or like Poppy Bush and Big Dawg did for a few different disasters). Any good will people have for them is much better spent there.

2) It has a great deal of potential to create confusion as to who is in charge. Especially with a recent popular President like Clinton. Also especially given that Hillary is ALREADY in the cabinet and so many of the cabinet are Clinton re-treads. One President at a time please.

3) It would probably violate the 25th (in conjunction with the 22nd) Amendments to the Constitution since every cabinet officer is in the line of succession to become President should anything (God forbid) happen to President Obama and those above the HHS Secretary in the LOS. This is a highly theoretical objection but at least legally speaking would pose a problem for any 2 term former President who wanted to serve as a sworn cabinet officer in a later administration.

4) Bill Clinton would not be happy having to take orders from anyone. It's not in his nature to do so.

If Bill wanted to run for something again (doubtful) it would most likely be either Governor of NY, or NYC Mayor. The only appointment he would likely take would be to the SCOTUS and even then he would probably need to be CJ to take the job.

Doug D.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:52 AM
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15. We need to get rid of term limits then. Because presidents are getting younger and will not just
sit around watching Youtube.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:07 AM
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23. There's 300 million people in this country
one guy (or gal) doesn't need to be King for life. It needs to be spread around and more people ought to have the opportunity to represent their country in gov't. I am thinking term limits are not such a bad idea. Wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to say "buh-bye" to entrenched Republican clowns like Mitch McConnell?

Doug D.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:45 AM
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13. NO
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:51 AM
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14. I don't think that Bill would accept it if offered.
He's a former president of the US, why would he want to be in another president's cabinet?

Besides, Bill values his free time and he is fully committed to his foundation and the Aids Global Initiative.

An unofficial post would be more suited to his skills. Such as being sent as a mediator to some area where there is conflict. He is widely respected overseas and still has a lot to contribute.

;-)
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:54 AM
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16. IMO, HHS is unfinished business with him and I believe he would make an exception. n/t
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:01 AM
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21. I really doubt it.
Had Hillary Clinton been offered the HHS job and not the SoS job she would have accepted on this basis but it's just too far down a step for any former President.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:14 AM
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24. Frankly, I don't think even Hillary would have accepted HHS.
She loved the senate and it was a hard decision for her to leave it. Obama, Biden and a handful of others had to convince her to take SOS, I don't see her accepting HHS.

;-)
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:17 AM
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25. It may be unfinished business,
but I don't see him being interested in a formal job in the administration. Adviser yes, but a cabinet post no.

:)
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:55 AM
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17. HELL NO!!!!! n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:01 AM
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19. ABSOFREAKINGLUTELY NOT!
Hell, no!
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:01 AM
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20. Yes, he has the connections and would save a lot of time
Like him or not, next to Daschle he is the most qualified to get universal healthcare passed and don't forget, that's the ultimate goal.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:03 AM
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22. I like Big Dawg, but no way -- give it to Dr. Dean
He has the chops and deserves it, imo.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:33 AM
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26. There's already one Clinton in the Cabinet meetings
and that's probably as many as President Obama can handle right now!
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:43 AM
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30. IMO, SOS Clinton will be gone in a short time for limiting her office to half the globe. n/t
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:40 PM
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43. What is THAT supposed to mean?
:shrug:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:53 PM
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45. huh????
Which half and why do you say that?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:36 AM
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27. no and there is no way he'd accept if offered
A former president isn't going to serve as cabinet official. And no one would seriously consider having both Hillary and Bill in the same cabinet.

Its not even closely within the realm of reality.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:38 AM
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28. No way, his ego is way too huge for that.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:47 AM
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31. HELL NO!!! Haven't we had enough "drama" this week? Whether manufactured or not?
And even if we hadn't, I don't want Bill anywhere in the administration!

No, no and NOOOOO! to this suggestion.

And frankly, I cannot understand why Fineman brought it up to Shuster on Countdown last night.

Probably to shit stir more controvesy so he has something to whine about and sell magazines.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:49 AM
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33. You mean the guy who is famous for having unprotected sexual contact in the White House?
No, I don't think so.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:52 AM
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34. No, his Foundation work
is too important.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:54 AM
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36. Change doesn't mean change in title - it means changing people
At least that's what I thought Candidate Obama meant....
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:54 AM
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37. No.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:58 AM
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38. NO! n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:59 AM
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39. No No NO!
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:06 PM
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40. Appoint the ultimate lobbyist in chief?

Or do you really think he's paid all of that money to give a speech? :rofl:

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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:06 PM
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41. Deleted. Duplicate.
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 12:07 PM by Skwmom
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:38 PM
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42. What a bunch of nasty posts!!!!!!
Might as well be at the Freeper's.........

x(
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:41 PM
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44. No, Nope, Nyet, Nein. n/t
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:42 PM
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46. no
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