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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:44 PM
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is "bi-partisanship" code for "corporatism"?
seems like the corporations gain the most politically from bi-partisanship...
they've got both sides of the aisle covered.

public policy based on bi-partisanship doesn't necessarily mean the public interests come first.

but for some strange reason, the corporate interests usually do, some more than others.

so what difference does party affiliation make, as long as corporate/free-market interests are put first.

what's really important is not repubs vs dems, but corporatists vs populists.

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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:46 PM
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1. I said something similar in another thread.
Prepare to get impaled for suggesting this, but I think you're right on the proverbial money.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:47 PM
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2. Even populists are for corporations operating in the US......
it is just a question of how regulated are they to be.

So I don't think that Bi-Partisanship means to allow for a corporatist government.

I think you are reaching and mixing up some of your terms in order to make your point,
but I'm not sure if your point is being made very effectively.

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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 04:01 PM
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11. Agreed.
The anti-corporation broad brush here is a little strong. I say if a corporation is committing bad acts, go get 'em. Hang 'em High. What I don't get is when people rail against this giant category called "corporations" as an evil unto itself.

If there are things about the way they are regulated (and IMO SOX was misguided and only served to create a new industry for the failed accounting sector that caused the problem) than change the regs.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:49 PM
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3. Bingo! You just cracked the`code.
very true.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:49 PM
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4. Frequently,
but not exclusively.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:51 PM
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5. It seems that most of you can only relate to recent history
There was a time that bi-patisanship has worked with certain issues.

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:53 PM
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8. Right. Like the massive shift of wealth from working people to multinational corporations.
That took teamwork!
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:58 PM
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10. Like I said, you only know of recent history
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 04:40 PM
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15. Define "recent". Clinton was elected 17 years ago.
:hi:
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:54 PM
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Well that was kinda the OP's point
That corporations win when both parties "come together". "Free trade" for instance.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 04:01 PM
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12. Bi-partisanship is not synonymous to corporatism to me
That's MY point. There have been times(not many) that our govt. has acted in a bi-partisan manner and gotten legislation passed.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 04:04 PM
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13. OK I would tweak "bi-partisan" to "post-partisan" then
Which is really the term I think is at play here.
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:52 PM
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6. Good point, let's not forget bi-partisanship brought us
The Iraq war, NAFTA, Patroit Act just to name a few. Those are all huge bi-partisan policy decisions that didn't benefit the people at all.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 04:07 PM
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14. Excellent point. Those bipartisan efforts brought on the disaster we are living today.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:53 PM
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7. Yup. Two parties vs. the American people. nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:54 PM
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9. Yes
The Bi-partisan Party, or The Central Leadership Corporation
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:12 AM
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16. hit the proberbial nail right on the head . . . which is why I'm less than thrilled . . . n/t
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