Obama DOES NOT FUCK AROUND! Pushback Is COMING!

[Beetwasher]

Mark my words. I know we get impatient. We want it now because we know the dire straights the country is in. We get frustrated, we want immediate gratification. But sometimes, you have to leave it to the masters. Obama's not perfect, but remember, we had the same impatience w/ him through the primaries and the election. O proved he knew what he was doing. The signs are there that pushback is coming. He has let the Repubs play their hand. He gave them every opportunity to behave reasonably and responsibly. They haven't. Now it's time for the hammer. It's coming. Just watch.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/2/4/115211/5372/609/692979

[bluestateguy]

1. As in the campaign, he sometimes is a little tardy hitting back

but when he does so, he's spot on and hits hard.

[Beetwasher]

2. I Don't Know If I'd Call It "Tardy"

Like in boxing, timing is very important. The Repubs have now TOTALLY played their hand. O knows EXACTLY what game they are playing. NOW is probably the right time to pushback, when their hand is TOTALLY on the table and he has revealed NOTHING to them about how he is going to pushback. In fact, what he's allowed them to see is probably NOTHING like what is actually in store for them.

Timing is often EVERYTHING. From our POV right now, it may look "tardy". After the whole process, it may in fact have been PERFECTLY played.

[Schema Thing]

14. Rope A Dope?

[Kablooie]

56. Oh yes. He waits until the opposition thinks he's a pushover and let's their guard down.

That's how he wins. He doesn't have to hit back hard.

He just waits until the opposition lays all their cards on the table.
Then he lays down a flush.

[havocmom]

4. There is a difference between simple reaction and well thought out response

He ain't no knee-jerk reactor!

[Beetwasher]

5. Exactly

Timing is everything. The Repubs have telegraphed everything they've got. Meanwhile, O has kept his hand close to his chest.

[cyclezealot]

20. Please be right.

Or we're sunk. I told Sen. Levin's staff. If Obama triangulates with the GOP senator's call to cut payroll taxes 1/2- then I'd call Sen. Feingold and ask him to start his campaign for president in 2012. I pray that will not be necessary. We did not elect a Democrat to enact more trickle down; as Sen. McConnell will filibuster to enact.

[dbmk]

33. I remember 1999

Manchester United kept winning game after game on goals scored in the added time. People kept saying that they were lucky. So lucky they stumbled upon a championship, FA Cup and a Champions League victory.

But when you do it time and time again, it stops being luck and starts being a skill. So maybe tardy is what it takes.

[Hellataz]

3. I believe this. I think if the GOP doesn't let up, Obama is gonna lose lose his patience with them,

Obama is a man of reason and compromise, but the GOP is on their way to push their limits and Obama is not the man who will let them walk all over him. If the Republicans continue on this divisive and and obstructive path, Obama will push back...HARD.

[Parker CA]

I would disagree with the assertion that he will lose his patience. Rather, I believe

that he will change his tactic to a different maneuver. Losing patience, to me, connotes a reaction that might be somewhat haphazard or knee-jerk in it's method of response. I believe Obama is doing what every smart fighter does, he is letting his opponents wear themselves out while he is exerting hardly any real energy yet. As the pukes get to the end of their stock of ideas and stashed energy, Obama is going to come out and pound them. It won't be short-sighted, it won't be unprofessional, and it won't be mis-calculated. It will be something they were never expecting.

[Beetwasher]

19. Yup, And It Will Be Well Coordinated

And focused like a laser beam.

[Hellataz]

31. I agree, i didn't mean to make it sound as if he'd do something rash.

I just think that there will come a time soon where some of the bi-partisan "niceties" will fall away and Obama will make a point to show them that while he's willing to compromise and work with them, he can just as easily do everything in his power to make their jobs difficult as they are doing for him now.

[phantom power]

6. I would quibble about one thing...

Our economy is bleeding out. "Immediate" may be the only chance we have to avert a major economic collapse.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/about-that-deflation-risk/

[Beetwasher]

8. Well, O's In A Better Position

To know how "immediate" immediate really is.

[phantom power]

12. A better position than who?

I don't think there is an economist alive who knows more about deflationary economics than Krugman. Krugman has been biting his nails since November.

[Beetwasher]

15. Better Than You

Krugman's great but he ain't perfect, and doesn't give a timeline. How immediate is immediate? It's not like this can get done yesterday. Obama knows the urgency and will get it done as soon as humanly possible given the circumstances. He's not omnipotent, despite what some people expect of him.

[Cha]

7. Any repuke who studied

history would know Obama doesn't screw around but that's an oxymoron.

[Beetwasher]

10. They ALWAYS Blow Their Wad Right Away

And show their full hand right off the bat. O knows this. He let's them. Then WHAMMO!

[GentryDixon]

9. His push back started after signing the SCHIP bill.

[JayMusgrove]

13. Yes, today he is focused like a Laser Beam.

To borrow one from Bill.

I think yesterday was his worst day, with all the interviews on TV right after Daschle withdrew. But today is another day, and he is going at them, twice on TV in one day. Then there's the ads running in local markets, the economic impact statements, the governors and mayors descending on DC...Republicans will be shamed into this, and I predict several more than 60 to vote for it in the end, including a handful of Republicons.

[HOLOS]

11. He is giving his opponents enough rope to hang themselves, imo

[VolcanoJen]

16. To employ a sports metaphor...

... the team that scores the most points early in the game often ends up losing.

I think we'd be foolish here to assume Obama and his team were completely caught off guard by GOP resistance to his stimulus package. In a way, I think he's just letting them play their hand, indeed. I can't remember a time in the general election where Obama didn't prevail, after waiting patiently for the GOP/McCain to bluster and sputter, after all.

[Catshrink]

17. Again:

[Beetwasher]

18. I Knew It Was Only A Matter of Time

Before those were posted!

[VolcanoJen]

21. Apropos now, more than ever.

;-)

[Beetwasher]

22. Indeed!

:hi:

[bdamomma]

55. Thanks for posting that, geez, I can hear him saying that.

[Catshrink]

60. Me, too.

It's such a no drama Obama statement.

[Inkyfuzzbottom]

23. The republics have been used to getting their way

for so many years they don't know how to fight strategically. With Uncle Dick and DumbAss they just steamrolled us. The rich loved them and got richer and the right wing uber conservative xtians followed like lemmings. They aren't used to having to really put up a smart fight. President Obama knows what to do. He didn't get where he is by being stupid or a pussy.

[4lbs]

24. Just think if McCain were POTUS instead. He'd have lost his temper by now, suffered health issues

and then ta-da..... President Sarah Palin.

:scared:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

25. Absolutely right...

K&R

I want to see this post on the Greatest Page!

:patriot:

[ShortnFiery]

26. It's the old "Rope-A-Dope" political strategy ... give these swine GOPers their full say THEN

watch "The People" leave their gawd-awful party in droves. :evilgrin:

[MadMaddie]

27. Obama has

"brung it to a whole nuva level" Mad TV reference

Obama is reeling the unbelievably stupid Repugs in.....The Repugs will overstep their bounds...it's just a matter of time.

[fadedrose]

28. He was superb today - he doesn't enjoy being wrong -

but he didn't blame anything on his staff and some of them should be canned without delay or excuses.

President Obama is much better than I ever thought he would be. It's hard to find good help nowadays though.

[Solomon]

29. You said it. He's better than I expected. And I was expecting

a lot.

He's got them in a bad position. They were actually celebrating themselves for stopping the stimulus bill. Owning it. And I'm thinking, "but the house is on fire". Most people will see this too. Their digging the pit they set for Obama, but they're the ones who will fall in it. And the best part is, after they eventually sign a bill, they're going to have to explain to their rabid base, why they signed a bill to help save the country, instead of remaining true to their "conservative principles".

I love what he's doing to them.

[natrat]

30. maybe, but aside from the posturing, the policy is starting to look very very ugly

[HOLOS]

32. O is giving the GOPigs enough rope to hang themselves (again)

[martymar64]

69. Too bad its not literal

I'd pay good money to see all of those repukes swinging from trees and lampposts.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. You got that right. He showed his acumen in the primaries and will do it again as President.

[Beetwasher]

35. KICK W/ O'S EDITORIAL!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/04/AR2009020403174.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

[glitch]

37. Please don't use a brand ("O"), brands are for trivial shallow twits like "W"

I am begging you.

[Beetwasher]

39. Shorthand

Sorry it bothers you (ok, not really), but I will continue to use it.

[glitch]

45. Too bad, it creeps me out. (ok, really) nt

[Beetwasher]

46. O Well!

:shrug:

[Pluvious]

66. Is "BO" any better ? n/t

.

[glitch]

68. A little, at least it doesn't remind me of "W" nt

:puke:

[Spazito]

36. I agree!

The repubs are well on their way to shooting themselves in their foot yet again and President Obama is helping them do it. The Recovery Bill will pass, imo, and the repubs are being seen as the pathetic obstructionists they are.

President Obama was sworn in on January 20th, today is February 5th, a scant 15 days have passed and the Obama Administration has already begun the repairs necessary to bring REAL CHANGE to the United States, imo.

I believe the old expression "Patience is a virtue" is apropos at this time.

Recommended.

[Marrah_G]

38. It's The secret plan- the plan- the plan- just wait- you will see-

Don't pay attention, because it is all smoke and mirrors, because he has a super secret plan. Yup, just you wait and SEE!

(yeah I am a skeptic- these are politicians, including him)

[Beetwasher]

40. Nothing Super or Secret About It

It's his MO. His responses are measured, thoughtful and focused, not knee-jerk.

[Marrah_G]

41. Like I said- I'm just still really skeptical

I hope you are right.

[Beetwasher]

42. That's Ok

But we have a history and a track record to look at. Many had the same type of reactions all through the primaries and elections and yet O proved he knew what he was doing, over and over and over again despite all the concern he was blowing it.

[Marrah_G]

43. We don't have a history yet

Campaigning is not governing. They are very different.

I'm going to remain skeptical for a while, until I see if he delivers.

[Beetwasher]

44. Of Course We Have A History

Even a history of governing. It hasn't been a long one, but it's still there, and so far w/ the exception of a few glitches (no one is perfect) he's done pretty damn good.

And governing and campaigning are not necessarily that different, they are comprised of many of the same elements and strategies.

[Marrah_G]

47. No- we don't have a history of governing in regard to the President.

Unless you consider 2 weeks a history.

Campaigning and Governing are apples and oranges.

[Beetwasher]

48. LOL! Anything In The Past Is History

Unless you want to change the definition.

"Campaigning and Governing are apples and oranges."

Not necessarily.

[Marrah_G]

49. wow- oooooooooooookay.

Have a nice day!

[Beetwasher]

50. Heh

Have a day!

[Teaser]

51. No. He is the new Hitler. Stop posting this stuff.

His soul is made of cancer and he eats baby's, gays, and old ladies, all the while laughing.

[lumberjack_jeff]

52. Uh huh. n/t

[bdamomma]

53. President Obama is only in his second week and cleaning up

8 years of shit from Bush and Cheney, nothing is going to be done overnight, and I blame the Congress for playing the same ole games especially those filthy Repigs.

I do believe Obama is not playing with these jerks, he will strike back.

[depakid]

54. I'd like to believe that

But thus far, the evidence I've seen points to dysfunctional business as usual.

[Bonobo]

57. Kick for the "F-Bomb"!

I'm an ass, I know. :)

[Soylent Brice]

58. good. rethugs need a 1-2 to the teef.

[backscatter712]

59. Obama's been applying steady, relentless pressure.

His Washington post editorial ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/04/AR2009020403174.html?hpid=opinionsbox1 ) is but the latest salvo.

He doesn't blink, he keeps the pressure on through a long series of editorials, press releases, speeches and interviews just beating the drum over and over and over again.

The Republicans won't be able to continue the resistance - eventually they'll have to take some sort of face-saving compromise and let the stimulus bill go through.

[Lilith Velkor]

61. "you have to leave it to the masters"?

Gah! Authoritarians make me sick. :puke:

[Beetwasher]

62. Uh, What?

:shrug:

You left out "BUT SOMETIMES..."

Why? So you can quote out of context and make some sort of idiotic point?

And when I say "masters", you know damn well I mean it in a different way than "Yes master!" Obama is a MASTERFUL politician, IOW, he's one of the best at it and sometimes you have to trust that he knows what he's doing. But if disingenuousness makes you happy...

[Lilith Velkor]

63. So you're calling me a liar?

Whatever, Ms. Cleo. :wank: :eyes:

Being a bottom "sometimes" is fine for sex, but in politics, it's authoritarian. Your argument is for placing blind faith in a politician, and I find that argument both unwise and viscerally repulsive. Too much of that attitude leads to tyranny and epic failure.

[Beetwasher]

64. Uh Yeah, That's What I'm Doing

How pathetic. I'm asking what the fuck you're talking about because it makes no sense in context.

No one said anything about blind faith, that's YOUR idiotic interpretation based on nothing but you're own perverted, out of context interpretation of what I wrote. It's not blind faith when you've already seen O in action. He has a track record of being a masterful politician.

[Beetwasher]

65. You Want PUSHBACK?????? How's THIS??

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/2/5/12365/41832/51/693537

[cooolandrew]

67. That's a very good article actually and clarifys what President Obama is getting at. His message>

is pretty clear he has the largest mailing list in history. In a down season of 2010 he could make that mailing list very active if they don't play along.