Pelosi Is trying to Derail Obama

[rsmith6621]

........recovery plan for America.....but yet she still wont prosecute members of the Bush administration...


...............SHE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM HER CHAIR NOW......

[LakeSamish706]

1. I agree, and Reid can go with her. n/t

[w4rma]

2. How? The House passed that bill a week ago. (nt)

[JohnnyBoots]

3. Harry and Hoyer too. The all suck. Let's get some real Dems with spines.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. Never going to happen, sorry to say.

[MNDemNY]

4. Why, Obama has no intention of seeking prosecutions.

[John Q. Citizen]

5. Do you have a link to what you say is her plot to derail the jobs/recovery bill? Thanks.

[polmaven]

28. Of course not...

Just more "Pelosi took impeachement off the table so she is the root of ALL evil" ranting.

[martymar64]

37. So you think the BFEE should get off scot-free?

She's not evil, just weak and compromised. Somebody that weak has no business as Speaker. Let her go to the back bench and serve from there. We need a Speaker with a spine, something she sorely lacks.

[polmaven]

41. Where did I SAY that?

Perhaps you need to have some reading comprehension lessons, first, and then some lessons on how things work in the real world.

Impeachment would NOT have been the right thing to do, and I have stated my reasons for thinking that often on this board. I mean, talk about scot-free! Acquittal in the Senate from impeachment charges brought by the House would have been a DISASTER!

No one, as far as I have seen, has taken anything off the table now! Lets give the AG some time to get his office door open before we get into prosecutions. Nancy Pelosi has NO PART in that! That will be up to the Attorney General, NOT the House of Representatives.

I still have seen NOTHING to back up the OP's claim that she is trying to undermine the President. It is more unsubstantiated bluster.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. no she is not trying to derail Obama

[saltpoint]

7. There's a logistical consideration to be made in "removing"

the Speaker of the House, herself re-elected by a decidedly informed and liberal Congressional district to the 111th Congress, and chosen by other elected Democrats in the majority of that chamber to be Speaker.

Good luck on this project.

[DrDan]

8. I don't necessarily disagree - but how is she trying to "derail Obama"?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

9. ROFLMAO!!!

:crazy:

[SIMPLYB1980]

10. Well fuck it I guess we should all vote republican next cycle.

:sarcasm:

[Deja Q]

27. Or not vote.

:sarcasm:

[ClarkUSA]

11. What PROOF do you have for this OP? Or is this another no-sourced brain-dead BS opinion?

[onenote]

12. And how exactly is she trying to derail obama?

If you can make the charge, presumably you can back it up.

[uponit7771]

16. Letting the bill hit the floor KNOWING it was OVER LOADED with shit that GOP was going to pick at...

...make it too easy to label the bill as pork without a true disciplined message that got out in front of GOP objections.

I understand over ask and correctly receive but this was stupid, they didn't have the message discipline to keep the GOP from labeling the bill.

Thx

[onenote]

17. and do you think the Obama team had absolutely nothing to do with the bill?

This bill wasn't drafted exclusively by Pelosi or even by the House. The White House had considerable input into it and has defended some of the very provisions that have become fodder for the talk show circuit. The inclusion of some provisions that have become controversial was strategic -- they were put in the bill (i) as a marker for future action and (ii) as items that could be negotiated away since it was always never going to be the case that the repubs would accept the bill as presented no matter what it had in it.

[backscatter712]

22. That's basically it.

Obama and Pelosi deliberately overloaded the bill before it went to the Senate - the Rethugs were going to screech and howl no matter what we did - this just ensured that there were a few bones that could be thrown at them.

You know how negotiations go - one side high-balls, the other side low-balls, then they meet in the middle.

[Occam Bandage]

21. That's funny. A week ago, people were calling for her head because

she was "complicit in letting the GOP strip progressive provisions from the bill." Damned if she includes 'em, damned if she doesn't.

[martymar64]

38. She needs to remember whose side she's on.

She needs to stop coddling the Rethugs and grow a spine already.

[Occam Bandage]

39. So you disagree with the OP, then. nt

[martymar64]

40. I don't know if she trying to derail Obama or not

But her coddling of the Rethugs is definitely not helping.
I feel her loyalties are more to the "investor class" than to the people. She's a modern day Marie Antoinette that longs to have homeless people thrown in jail (her own words).
She's not one of us like Obama is, that's for sure.

[truebrit71]

13. She and Reid need to be replaced post haste...

...they are fucking useless...

[Bleacher Creature]

14. She may be ineffectual, but she's NOT trying to derail anything, nt

[Marrah_G]

15. Obama doesn't want to prosecute Bush either..........

Where is she derailing Obama? Details please.

[WI_DEM]

19. It's not to her advantage to undermine a democratic president if she wants to remain speaker.

The Dems could easily lose their majority in the next election, just as Bill Clinton did in 1994.

[Occam Bandage]

20. She isn't "trying to derail Obama." What BS. They have the same position. And, moreover,

she doesn't have the authority to "prosecute Bush."

[NoPasaran]

23. Pesky details

I remember reading last year that the notion people should have a basic understanding of civics was a pro-DLC position.

[vaberella]

24. Agreed...not to mention she has been Obama's staunchest advocate if not confidant. n/t

[Clear Blue Sky]

25. She's reminding Barack that SHE'S in charge of Wash DC...

[AtomicKitten]

26. Wait. I thought Diane Feinstein claimed the throne with her hissyfit over the Panetta nod. n/t

[Clear Blue Sky]

30. Nope. It's Queen Nan...

[AtomicKitten]

31. Thanks for clarifying the hierarchal pecking order, tough to discern with so much barking from D.C.

[Deja Q]

29. Everyone seems to be.

Which includes President Obama himself based on some of the people he's chosen, some of which have backed down because of sufficiently serious "oopsies" they made. I do feel sorry for the President; it's not an enviable position to be in anymore.

[Radical Activist]

32. Speaker Jan Schakowsi

[Enrique]

35. too partisan

Obama would never want her.

He'd want one of the Blue Dogs who wouldn't do anything the republicans could attack too easy.

[Enrique]

33. so who's Obama prosecuting now he's president

now he runs the Justice Department. His U.S. Attorneys could start proceedings on any of these people that are thought to be slam dunk cases.

So? What's he done?

[democracy1st]

34. WTF President Obama tells her what to do!

[democrattotheend]

36. I disagree

I think she and Obama have a pretty good relationship...there will inevitably be some White House-Congress turf battles, as is inevitable even (or especially) when one party controls both, but I don't think Pelosi has the knives out for Obama or anything.

[alwysdrunk]

42. I miss Dick Gephart :-(

Tom Daschle's not looking so bad these days either.....

[RollWithIt]

43. OMG! Pelosi is killing Obama by getting EVERYTHING PASSED!

Damn her!

[SidneyCarton]

44. Paranoid much?