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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:09 PM Original message |
Barbara Boxer just showed the whole Democratic Party how to kick GOP ass |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Can't we just make her Senate Majority Leader already??????? |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Amen to that. She would get things done. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. My thoughts exactly -- on all counts (as another Californian!) |
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trueblue2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. I say yes!!!!!! Barbara Boxer is NOT afraid of anything. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. +1 !!! |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #39 |
57. +2!!! |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
77. +3 !!! |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
110. My + goes to 11 !! |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
67. OMG!! i was thinking that same thing the other day when i heard about |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
84. We have to find a face saving way for Harry Reid to step down |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #84 |
97. 2010 hurry up |
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SleeplessinSoCal (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #84 |
120. Or else, Obama still wants to try the bi-partisan approach for a few more months. |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
91. I second that! |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
94. Make her in charge immediately ~ she is the voice |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #94 |
116. One of the few voices of courage & reason throughout the long Bush years. n/t |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
108. Oh, how I'd love that |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
117. I don't think Reid's as bad as many here do, but I'd get behind Boxer in a heartbeat. (nt) |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh man - I watched it happen. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. That must have been very |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. sorry I missed it but I'll be in the c-span archives looking - she took on Barrasso yesterday too! n |
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Shardik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
63. There's a YouTube video up here now. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. Amen to your entire post. I am sick unto death of our Casper Milquetoast, After you, Alphonses. |
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Still Sensible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. Go Babs!!!!!!!! n/t |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. She's fantastic! |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. I thought his head was going to explode and spew his tiny brain onto the carpet. |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. Wow, if only Nancy Pelosi was made of the same |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
48. It's not a personality difference . . .. |
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kmac3 (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #48 |
92. Perfectly Stated |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. We WON, Goddammit! Time we start acting like it!!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
111. We won two years ago --- !!! Reid/Pelosi elected to end wars -- !!! |
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InAbLuEsTaTe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
11. I love the way BB calls these schmucks out. Would have made an excellent VP. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
52. Yes . . .and would love to see Barbara Boxer on Supreme Court --- !!!! |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. Bar Box ROX! |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. And Lindsey responded with lies |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 07:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
68. what needs to be said to these people: |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #68 |
98. Tell it! |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. As a male Dem, let me say this: our male D congress critters |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. And, ironically, lose even more respect from male voters. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Except For Howard Dean! |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
109. Howard Dean was from a wealthy family, though |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #109 |
119. The rest of that paragraph... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. He was still quite wealthy |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. as were/are the Kennedys and the Roosevelts. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. I completely agree, and like them, he chose a life of public service. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
128. That's as may be, but Hampton standards aren't what we're necessarily talking about |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Over the top on male Democrats |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. If our Dem congress critters acted more like Boxer and Obama |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
125. Obama was NOT one of the Democrats who was most likely to speak out |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. We are strong because substance matters |
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Iwillnevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Let's not forget |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #49 |
85. Bernie is not a Dem . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #28 |
50. While I agree in large part that there is a certain belief in a level/base of |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. I think they suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. No . . . |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
121. Have you looked at the list of Senators by wealth? |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. We really need her as majority leader |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
112. How did Reid ever get the |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. Lindsay - what did you do to the Clinton surplus over the last 8 years? |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
17. I wish they could all be Barbara Boxer. |
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Oldenuff (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Amen to that! |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #42 |
86. Oh please! What BS |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
18. Deleted message |
camera obscura (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Oh snap. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Um, that's homophobic. |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
89. Homophobia on DU?! |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
19. Reid would have pissed himself |
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Submariner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Women are used to raising and nurturing |
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PylesMalfunction (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
22. Here's a video from TPM |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. thanks |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
23. I have no problem with strong women |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. That's my Senator! |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. ^5 huskerlaw - mine too! I agree about DiFi but lately, she's been making nice |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
27. I love her. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
31. Sometimes it takes a woman to show how it's done. |
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kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
32. Boxer is my hero! I wish we could get rid of Feinstein! |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. He seemed to get the better of it in the clip. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. actually this clip doesn't show the initial facial reaction after his shenanigans |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
104. MrSlayer, it looked to me like he was stammering and whining like a pussy boy who |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
35. I just called Sen Boxer's office to congratulate her on telling Lindsey off. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
43. Hurrah!!! |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
44. To hell with Lindsay Graham |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
45. Unfortunately spinelessness is a gender-neutral trait among our party's "leadership" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
46. Stronger, unless that woman is Nancy "Let The Criminals Walk" Pelosi. |
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Left Coast2020 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Proud to have her as my Senator too!!! |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
55. Lindseys Mission was to disparage the Dems and Obama...pure and simple |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
56. I didn't really see any ass kicking on that clip |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I appreciated it more out of the longer clip |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Bitching about defense spending is akin |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Same here |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. the video skipped his initial tantrum and facial reaction i'll try and find a longer vid |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #56 |
93. I think we're so starved for any reaction |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
60. She my Senator too. Boxer is smart, classy and real leader. |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
62. I liked her for POTUS, but she didn't run. I'd settle for |
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Optical.Catalyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 05:21 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. It is time for Reid to get out of the way |
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GetTheRightVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
64. Goes with the name, Boxer !!! |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
66. Sent Senator Boxer my respects... |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
69. I'd hardly call that a smackdown. Truth be told, I think he bested her. nt |
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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. She nailed him |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. I admit I didn't see the longer version, but the link in the OP doesn't show the smackdown |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Yep. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
71. Big K & R !!! |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
72. oh yes, I saw her put him on the spot. Bravo Senator Boxer!!! |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
74. It's time to open some Republican closet doors. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. I think most of Graham's constituents probably know... |
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Boxerfan (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
79. And that is why I am a BOXERFAN!! |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
80. Way to GO Senator Boxer, and why do we have to be stuck with |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
81. Great !!! TIME FOR US TO KICK BUTT - Contact your Senators!!!!!!! |
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Highway61 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
82. she's awesome |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
83. I never liked her, but I like her a lot after this. nt |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
106. What Could You Have Possibly Not Liked About Her Prior To This? |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
87. "The countries going to get worse." |
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dglow (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #87 |
113. Es tu Brutus |
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Roxy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
88. How do we get rid of Harry Reid!!!!!? |
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jae1227 (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #88 |
107. 2010 election |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
90. Yes, there's certain guy behavior that women just don't accept. |
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CtDemoFarmer (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
95. Boxer/Ensign amendment |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
96. OVARIES !!!!!!!!!!!! She's got ovaries! |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
99. I definitely want "THAT ONE" on my side in a bar fight. Or any other fight. |
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relayerbob (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
100. Long time Boxer fan here |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
101. Everyone is talking about this: Boxer was amazing...but she always is. |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
102. re: " the women are a hell of alot stronger than the men" |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
103. If that snippet was the entire interchange I don't understand what everyone here |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #103 |
118. Me either. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
105. She Always Does. She's By Far The Best We've Got And I Wish More Mainstream Folk Knew Her. |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #105 |
114. Put her |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
115. Go Barbara!! |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
123. I have missed seeing her in the news. She is a great woman..and great Senator. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
124. Not enough Boxer and too much Graham in that video. :D |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
129. I expected to see the Daily Show que up the place where he objected |
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liberalsince1968 (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
130. All she did was give him a chance to play the victim - which he proceeded to do for |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
131. Come on. No need for stereotypes or generalizations. |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
132. Love Box! |
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davefromqueens (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
133. I'd support Boxer |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
134. I wish that she would have slapped the arrogant bastard. |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-06-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
135. nothing like a strong sexy democartic woman |
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