2-3 years from now, after the stimulus bill passes and is successful.

[blueclown]

You just know the Republicans are going to tell us how recovery was baked into the cake anyways and that the the President's Jobs Bill had nothing to do with it.

So get used to it. It's coming.

[tekisui]

1. We need it framed now. The Democrats are saving this country FROM the repukes.

[blueclown]

2. The Democrats are in DESPERATE NEED of better message machinery.

Their message and narratives get swallowed up by a much stronger and much more focused Republican noise machine.

[Fire1]

3. Oh yes, but let them tell it, it's the other way around. It's the

DEMOCRATIC noise machine.

[HughMoran]

4. Yes, but the American people will be happy that we're doing well and Obama was at the helm

So, usual arguments aside, the American people aren't as stupid as the Republicans think they are.