Feinstein speaks out against Obama's Plan: 'I Think As We Dither, Rome Burns'

[SuperTrouper]

So there you have it, DiFi is having trouble supporting Obama. I am interested to find out what are the thoughts from our NY Senators Gillibrand and Schumer, especially Gillibrand. Feinstein is dead to me...

http://www.ktvu.com/news/18658019/detail.html

[ShortnFiery]

1. Perhpas DiFi just wants the VOTE now? eom

[FrenchieCat]

2. I posted this.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8173909&mesg_id=8173909

[SuperTrouper]

4. Thanks. I'm sorry I missed it.

[Cha]

24. Thanks, I

just replied to it.

[stillcool]

54. Frenchie..the article the OP linked to...

says she is opposed to the tax cuts and what has happened to the bill..poor wording from the author

WASHINGTON -- Convinced tax cuts will not stimulate the nation’s economy, Sen. Dianne Feinstein spoke out Friday against President Barack Obama's economic recovery package.

“I’m going increasingly concerned about the bill as to whether it is really going to be a stimulus,” she told fellow Senators during a debate of the bill.

Feinstein then roiled through a litany of California’s financial woes.

“I come from a state which has more people unemployed today than the population of over a dozen states,” she said. “A state where the bread lines are growing, Where the need for assistance is growing. Where the state has a huge deficit. Where counties are unable to fund their operating maintenance. Where all capital projects have stopped and where the state now furloughs employees.”
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What in my view a stimulus is, is not candidly speaking a tax package,” she said. “I do not believe in this economy tax cuts are simulative… I worry about this economy. The point of this package is to get jobs out to the people. So I reserve the right at the end of the day to vote against a package that does put those jobs out there.” . While Feinstein spoke out against the package, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada was trying to rally support for it.

"The world is waiting to see what we're going to do in the next 24 hours," said Reid, reflecting the Democrats' fierce urgency to wrap up the bill as conservative Republicans criticize the legislation and the economic picture grows bleaker

[bluestateguy]

3. And if we get rid of the tax cuts to appease her, then five more senators will jump off the boat

This is like trying to get frogs into a wheelbarrow.

All these bombastic senators and their "concerns".

[pnwmom]

21. As long as she ends up voting for the actual bill, then her speaking out against

the tax cuts is good. Makes it clear it's a compromise bill that has features partisans on both sides don't like.

[cottonseed]

5. She's a big money pol. She's supposed to be a Dem. She's wriggling.

One way that I see this is that a lot of these Dems, now that they're in the majority are trying to find a way to look like they actually give a shit. Which I'm not convinced they do.

[avaistheone1]

36. Dianne Finestein is the 5th wealthiest person in the Senate.

She did a bang up job getting plum government contracts for her husband's firm via the Senate committee's she oversaw.

Heckofjob Dianne! But don't help the little people....:sarcasm:

[pnwmom]

46. How is her speaking out against the Republican tax cuts

not helping the little people?

[lapfog_1]

6. She is against the Tax Cuts in the Stimulus Bill...

Something almost all progressives agree with. She will likely vote in favor of whatever is in front of the Senate in the end.

DiFi has her DINO moments, but this isn't one of them.

[phantom power]

7. For fuck's sake, can't she direct her ire at the GOP?

She's going to blame Obama for the GOP's addiction to tax cuts?

:banghead:

[Muttocracy]

8. Gillibrand and Schumer voted opposite on the anti-museum amendment

http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00051

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

9. Isn't she the one dithering?!?!

If she wants to put out the fire, JUST PASS THE FUCKING BILL!

[Captain Hilts]

10. This isn't anti-Obama. nt

[jwirr]

11. And in the mean time her state is totally broke. Come on DiFi think

about the people you represent.

[Sebastian Doyle]

27. The people she represents

are her fellow war profiteers.

[avaistheone1]

37. .....well for example...her husband.

[stillcool]

52. She is...at least according to the article the OP..

is linking to...

WASHINGTON -- Convinced tax cuts will not stimulate the nation’s economy, Sen. Dianne Feinstein spoke out Friday against President Barack Obama's economic recovery package.

“I’m going increasingly concerned about the bill as to whether it is really going to be a stimulus,” she told fellow Senators during a debate of the bill.


Feinstein then roiled through a litany of California’s financial woes.

“I come from a state which has more people unemployed today than the population of over a dozen states,” she said. “A state where the bread lines are growing, Where the need for assistance is growing. Where the state has a huge deficit. Where counties are unable to fund their operating maintenance. Where all capital projects have stopped and where the state now furloughs employees.”
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What in my view a stimulus is, is not candidly speaking a tax package,” she said. “I do not believe in this economy tax cuts are simulative… I worry about this economy. The point of this package is to get jobs out to the people. So I reserve the right at the end of the day to vote against a package that does put those jobs out there.” . While Feinstein spoke out against the package, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada was trying to rally support for it.

"The world is waiting to see what we're going to do in the next 24 hours," said Reid, reflecting the Democrats' fierce urgency to wrap up the bill as conservative Republicans criticize the legislation and the economic picture grows bleaker

[ORDagnabbit]

12. why would a multi-multi-millionaire care about us? seriously

[City Lights]

13. I have no use for her.

She seriously makes my skin crawl. :puke:

[glowing]

14. DiFi is still pissy over Panetta.. she's shitting bricks wondering if she will

be caught up in the authorizing torture shit. She knew and went along with it.. and isn't her husband a contractor that gets tons of money from the govt for various projects? Most of our esteemed Senators are corrupt and need to go.

[ReadTomPaine]

29. Bingo. n/t

[Thrill]

15. In defense, I thought she was just tired of the Republicans

Much like Schumer

[pnwmom]

16. That particular quote sounds like she just wants fast action, which is good.

What did she say to make you think she isn't supporting his plan?

[SuperTrouper]

18. this quote:

Convinced tax cuts will not stimulate the nation’s economy, Sen. Dianne Feinstein spoke out Friday against President Barack Obama's economic recovery package.

“I’m going increasingly concerned about the bill as to whether it is really going to be a stimulus,” she told fellow Senators during a debate of the bill.

[pnwmom]

20. Speaking out against the tax cuts is actually good, since they're being

pushed from the Republican side, and won't do anything to solve the problem. But I bet she votes for whatever bill finally comes up.

[CitizenPatriot]

40. agree -- it's important for the RECORD and the PRESS nt

[bottomtheweaver]

43. Oh come on. She's scoring points, like she always does.

She'll vote yes, she'll get her precious tax cuts, but she'll tell us (Calif voters) how much she TRIED to help us little guys. She's worthless and disloyal to boot.

[pnwmom]

45. It's disloyal of her to vote FOR Obama's bill? Hardly. n/t

[bottomtheweaver]

57. It's disloyal to demagogue against it.

And it's no surprise that a neocon DINO is the first to break ranks, but that's what she's doing, whatever lame excuse she offers.

[pnwmom]

58. She isn't. Her voice on the left helps to balance the voices on the right of all

the Rethugs shouting about cutting taxes -- with Obama coming off as a middle of the roader. She'll vote for the bill in the end. Count on it.

[bottomtheweaver]

60. Where was her "voice on the left" when she was voting up spy bills?

Give me a break. If there was any danger of this thing not passing, she wouldn't be getting her licks in, but she knows it's a done deal, she'll get her tax breaks, and so she's taking the opportunity to grandstand.

Look, I live in this state, and I've watched Feinstein and DINOs just like her, at every level, pull this shit constantly.

[pnwmom]

61. Those are completely separate issues and her positions on them are unrelated. nt

[bottomtheweaver]

62. "She supported the 2001 Bush tax cut and voted for the Iraq war

resolution in October 2002 and the $87 billion supplemental in November 2003. She supported the (Bush) Medicare/prescription drug bill in November 2003. When she ran for governor in 1990 she emphasized her support of the death penalty."

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/f/dianne_feinstein/index.html

Voice on the left my ass. She's a DINO warmonger and that's widely understood in California.

[pnwmom]

63. With regard to the issue at hand, she was a voice on the left; and in speaking

out, she helped position Obama in the middle.

[CitizenPatriot]

55. I never had that impression of her when she was my senator

I used to write her all of the time...

but perhaps you know things I don't.

nonetheless, I think it's good that these objections are on the record -- it's part of the game and someone better be smart enough to play it right.

Otherwise, it will be the "Dems package" where they gave nothing...oh, wait, it's already been rebranded that way.

I hope this was pushback against that msm meme.

[Phx_Dem]

17. Then quit dithering dumbass.

[crimsonblue]

19. There must've not been any money going to her Defense Contractor Husband

or towards building DHS FEMA internment camps.

[avaistheone1]

38. My thoughts exactly.

[olegramps]

22. The tax cuts were an appeasement to the Republicans

Obama and his crew of threw in the tax cuts in hope of getting Republican support. The Republicans shoved it right up his butt and stabbed him in the back. What the hell does a person who doesn't have a job get out of a tax cut?

I don't know when the Democrats will grow some balls and come right out and tell the American workers that the Republicans are their worst nightmare. There is nothing more than the Repuks would love is to have every worker in the nation working for a dollar and hour. Tell the workers that the Republicans are delighted to see the huge unemployment lines just rubbing their hands in glee and thinking just how little they will be able able to exploit the situation and hire these suckers for peanuts. Tell the workers that the Republicans are determined to drive the workers into bankruptcy and foreclose on everything the own. They will be buying it all up for ten cents on the dollar.

Its past time for a march on Washington and the banks with pitchforks.

[Zodiak]

28. I like the way you put it, olegramps

And you are right, this is exactly what they are doing.

[Arkana]

23. I don't think that's a criticism...

[TexasObserver]

25. she's horrible

[TeamJordan23]

26. misleading OP. She is for less tax cuts and more spending. nm

[bottomtheweaver]

42. She's demagoguing.

She could care less about the friggin spending. She knows it's going to pass and she's taking the opportunity to knife the guy she didn't support in the primaries in the back, again.

[depakid]

47. GOOD! Someone has to do it

The Obama team has been embracing stupid economic policies in its attempts to pander to the right (all the while getting butned in the media).

[Imagevision]

30. Hard to believe Feinstein is the best Cali can come up with...

[HOLOS]

31. CORRECT!!

[Fire1]

32. Fuck Feinstein! She's GOT to be a closet Republican!

[avaistheone1]

35. Her recent votes mirror Joe Liberman.

[Enrique]

44. for opposing tax cuts?

I think you have it backwards. Look at the TV, the ones calling for tax cuts are the republicans.

[genna]

33. I read the article but I didn't get the see your interpretation of the bill on it

The only way a Senator is going to make sure their pet project is taken seriously is if they say, "NO!" I don't particularly care for Feinstein but if I'm going to get my knickers in a twist it is going to be because the substance is wrong.

The question for Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to answer is can they make an honest promise to those Senators who are taking a backseat on this bill that their issues WILL BE AIRED OUT in future legislation in THIS session.

This is regular run of the mill politics that I've witnessed for the last 15 years.

Where is your beef with Feinstein?

[liberalsince1968]

34. See you next Tuesday, Di!

[Left Coast2020]

39. DiFi has the gall to stand up on podium at Obama swearing

in making everyone thinks she supports him, now she is working against him. This lady is getting lower, and lower. Frankly I can't wait till her re-election. Someone was just mentioned here as a possible challenger to her seat. I don't remember name but she has absolutely needs to go. She is a disgrace.

[bottomtheweaver]

41. Didn't take long for her to stick the knife in, did it?

She's demagoguing on the tax cuts just like Barney demagogued on Warren -- who, come to think of it, was selected by a committee that included Feinstein. Now how bout that?

:mad:

[Honeycombe8]

48. Feinstein's loyalties have been evident ever since she sided with the Repubs in the Medicare Rx bill

Awful bill with PROVISION THAT DISALLOWED THE GOVERNMENT FROM NEGOTIATING PRICES WITH PHARMACIES.

Feinstein was very okay with that bill, and heartedly voted for it, giving a Repub-like speech on behalf of it, even.

It was shameful. I was so disappointed because I'd liked her up until then.

It was after that that I learned that the Repub Party, or some bill, granted something that benefited her husband's business affairs. Coincidence, I'm sure.

[Baikonour]

49. As the REPUBLICANS dither, Rome burns.

Choose your words wisely, Feinstein. You've just pissed off your base.

[biopowertoday]

50. If you read the article she is AGREEING WITH OBAMA.

[stillcool]

53. It's amazing isn't it?

[biopowertoday]

56. ............

:) :hi:

[stillcool]

51. Wow...read much?

per your link.....................

http://www.ktvu.com/news/18658019/detail.html
WASHINGTON -- Convinced tax cuts will not stimulate the nation’s economy, Sen. Dianne Feinstein spoke out Friday against President Barack Obama's economic recovery package.

“I’m going increasingly concerned about the bill as to whether it is really going to be a stimulus,” she told fellow Senators during a debate of the bill.


Feinstein then roiled through a litany of California’s financial woes.

“I come from a state which has more people unemployed today than the population of over a dozen states,” she said. “A state where the bread lines are growing, Where the need for assistance is growing. Where the state has a huge deficit. Where counties are unable to fund their operating maintenance. Where all capital projects have stopped and where the state now furloughs employees.”
--------------------

What in my view a stimulus is, is not candidly speaking a tax package,” she said. “I do not believe in this economy tax cuts are simulative… I worry about this economy. The point of this package is to get jobs out to the people. So I reserve the right at the end of the day to vote against a package that does put those jobs out there.” . While Feinstein spoke out against the package, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada was trying to rally support for it.

"The world is waiting to see what we're going to do in the next 24 hours," said Reid, reflecting the Democrats' fierce urgency to wrap up the bill as conservative Republicans criticize the legislation and the economic picture grows bleaker

[Life Long Dem]

59. She needs to go.

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