Tweety Just Upset Me - His Comment That Obama Using The WH Bowling Alley & Going To Camp David......

[global1]

that Obama was doing the "Orangeman's Walk". I think that's the term he used. He said that Obama is showing that this is all his - like marking his territory.

Why such a low shot?

Why couldn't he say something like Obama's a good father and wants to make things comfortable for his kids to adjust to this new life they have. So he bowled with them in the WH - a fun family thing to do - and he took them to Camp David to show his kids.

He had the chance to spin it in a nice, family, genuine, real way - but Tweety chose to spin it negatively.

[EFerrari]

1. Did anyone ever question Bush using the facilities available to the President?

[JayMusgrove]

51. Yes, all the people who voted for Gore. I questioned it from day one..

but who am I? I'm not the slime media.

[EFerrari]

60. LOL. Come to think of it, so did I. Silly question withdrawn.

:)

[JerseygirlCT]

58. Or spending enormous amounts of time "clearing brush"

at his "ranch"?

[proud2BlibKansan]

66. I did

Since he was never really elected, I questioned everything he did at every possible moment.

But then, I think you knew that. LOL

[Cha]

2. It's a good thing Tweety doesn't get much

viewers and they can think for themselves about what Obama is doing and why.

I don't even know what that means "orangeman walk"?

[wryter2000]

4. Could it refer to Syracuse University?

They're The Orangemen.

On edit: That doesn't make any sense. I have no idea what it means.

[SoxFan]

7. Wrong Orangemen

I think Chris means these clowns:



Every year, militant Protestants go strutting around in Northern Ireland ostensibly commemorating the Protestant victory at the Battle of the Boyne. It's really just the old bigots "marking their territory".

[Cha]

18. Oh dear..how insulting..and it would be something

Irish like that from tweets.

Here's tweety doing a drunken rendition of "Let's Face the Music and Dance"..at David Schuster's wedding.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x270141

[Window]

46. OMG! That was some awful singing by Tweets.

Just awful!

[kenny blankenship]

8. Look up Orange and Orangemen in relation to Ireland, and N. Ireland

An Orangeman would be a Protestant loyalist to Britain, I believe, walking around making sure all the Catholics see him enjoying His Majesty's Irish possessions.

[Cha]

14. Right..like Obama's

calculating like that. Sometimes Tweety just needs to stop looking at the glass 1/2 murky empty.

[kenny blankenship]

19. Tweety is a troubled mind

and I don't watch him. I don't find his metaphor apt and it makes me uneasy to speculate on why he would even say something like that.

[Cha]

27. Exactly..sounds

like a very personal problem.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

44. Tweety doesn't have a mind. He lost it years ago.

[MADem]

22. That's it, but there's more nuance to it than that.

The Walk takes place past Catholic churches, and through Catholic neighborhoods. It's a PARADE, and the cops have to line the streets so the Orangemen, who are basically saying Fuck You to the Catholics, don't get hit with beer bottles tossed from rooftops or what-have-you. It is an opportunity for violence; it's fraught with tension at best.

It's a "Nanny Nanny Boo Boo" on steroids.

The idea of the walk is to STICK IT to the Catholics, to make it clear that they're subservient, second class citizens, and to strut where you don't belong.

I think the use of the term was wrong and inappropriate.

[KittyWampus]

47. thanks for the further clarification. Well done.

[JerseygirlCT]

59. Yup. Everything you said. nt

[wryter2000]

52. Oh, yuck

Thanks for clearing that up.

[MADem]

21. I provided two links down below.

It has to do with the habit of the Orangemen in the "Bondanged Fourth Green Field" (Northern Ireland) to parade in a large, organized group, in front of Catholic churches and through Catholic neighborhoods, where they do NOT belong....SOLELY in order to piss off the Catholics--that was their only purpose. The idea on the part of those Orangemen is to let those "goddamned Mackerel Snappers" know who's in charge. It's a way to describe someone who is throwing their weight around. It's also kind of a bully's term.

Tweety is a Catholic. I don't completely "get" where he was going using the term (was his idea to press the "I'm in charge" idea, or the "doesn't belong" meme?), but then, I didn't hear it--I'm going on the report here. The term is generally used to describe someone who is strutting around, acting high handed, where they don't belong, with a goal to piss off the locals.

[Howardx]

32. slightly off topic

i was in morgantown wv one weeked and there were signs everywhere saying "crush the orangemen!" took me a while to figure it out, then WV won the game and the band got tear gassed by the cops in the ensuing havoc.

[K Gardner]

3. That's disgusting.. I didn't hear that. I did hear him worrying about whether its dangerous for

Obama to get "too close to real people", like Julio and Henrietta, lest he pay a political price.

Do these pundits LIVE in their Georgetown Mansions and see nothing outside of the beltway?? For the love of pete !!

[Cha]

6. Tweety's sounding like a scared wittle

wabbit:scared:..not behavior fitting for a grown pundithead.

[liberalmuse]

5. This is the same guy who salivated over Bush's codpiece.

Pay him no mind. He's a fucking idiot whenever he deigns to attempt to psychoanalyze.

[Hieronymus]

9. I can see why Tweety was drawn to W ... he desperately wanted to be a frat boy.

[Uzybone]

10. Tweety is insane, he will say anything

[Jennicut]

11. Tweety, this time you went too far.

[Drunken Irishman]

12. Boo!

[liberal N proud]

13. Tweety should know that the President has all those things

because it is difficult for him to go out in public for those very things.

He can't go to the local bowling alley and he can't make a weekend trip to get away at any old resort.

Tweety is probably reading from some script intended to attack Obama at every angle. They are trying to find something that will make the public fall out of love with the President.

[rvablue]

15. Excuse my "french", but I just knew this shit was coming down the pike....

I knew that our President and First Family would get criticism for doing WHAT EVERY SINGLE FREAKING MODERN PRESIDENT HAS EVER DONE!?!?!?

Things they will bitch about:
Air Force One Flights
Chefs
State Dinners
Camp David
Going to Hawaii....
Blah....
Blah....
Blah....


Did anyone say one freaking word when Bush spent a quarter of his presidency on vacaction?

But, now that I come to think of it, they went after Bill Clinton every single time he stepped out of the White House.

IT's such bullshit!

[rvablue]

16. BTW, found it on the googles, "Orangemen's Walk" means

essentially the pageant of the proletariat.

Dear Tweety: :wtf:????????????

[Captain Hilts]

39. The Orange are the Protestants who 'march' through 'Green' /Catholic areas of Ireland. Staking claim

over the turf. Strolling for right of passage.

[MADem]

17. Every President does it, and Tweety tends to be medically noncompliant with his

diabetes medications, which makes him shoot off his mouth stupidly and inappropriately. It could be a bit of residual racism popping up; guess all that time in the Peace Corps didn't totally eradicate that terrible 'tude???

He's very likely also got Saint Paddy's on the brain; probably because he (finally, maybe?) got his invite to a "breakfast roast" on the day next month, somewhere--he should be so lucky to get in on the best one, in Boston.

Some background to the term:

http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Orangemen's_Day/
http://www.redorbit.com/news/general/7257/barricades_erected_for_n_ireland_march/index.html

The comment was just moronic, and inappropriate to the situation as well, really. The idea of the "Orangeman's Walk" is that the "Proddies" perambulate in rather snooty fashion past the Catholic churches and through the Catholic neighborhoods, with a specific purpose of pissing off the local Catholics.

Obama was elected with a substantial majority. He doesn't have to do any "parading." Those are his quarters, that's his palace and his prison for at least the next four years.

It's small compensation for the task before him, really. I hope he enjoys the digs.

[global1]

26. Now That I Know What His Reference Was To - I Think He Should Apologize To Obama...nt

[MADem]

36. As I sort of indicated elsewhere in this thread, I am not entirely sure

if the meaning behind his use of the term was to suggest "I'm gonna show you who is in charge--I'm gonna do my strut and let you know that I am the BOSS of you and all I survey" or the pompous act of a bunch of assholes who are, like bulls in a china shop, going where they are not wanted.

See, when you use the term "Orangeman's Walk"...why, where you stand depends on where you sit.

The Orangemen see it as an affirmation of their political, cultural, and of course RELIGIOUS dominance over Northern Ireland, a visible expression that THEY are in charge. The Catholics in Northern Ireland see the very same act as the dispicable, deliberate and vicious taunting of oppressed people by their oppressors--oppressors who strut past their houses of worship and parade through their neighborhoods to let those Mackerel Snappers know full well that they're "less than" and they'd best not forget it.

IF he meant it from the Protestant perspective, it's a bit less offensive than if he meant it from the Catholic view. However, I wonder, because Tweety is an active Catholic.

It was just a loaded term. But then, Tweety is a guy who loves the loaded term--and the inappropriate one, too.

[roody]

42. Tweet said it because Obama is black, therefore he does not belong

in the WH. The Orangemen parade where they do not belong.

[MADem]

43. Well, we'd have to ask him what he meant.

It could be that, or it could simply be that he was referencing the "arrogance of authority" that enables an Orangeman to parade where they will.

As I've said, where you stand depends on where you sit. The Orangemen believe that they own everything, and they DO belong anywhere in the north that they want to go--that they're in charge, they're the boss, they have the power... not those pesky Catholics. The Catholics are the ones who view them as unwelcome intruders in their neighborhoods.

I don't really know what was in his head.

It was a poor reference in any event. The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps it was a family expression, designed to suggest that someone was acting like the lord of the manor, or something. "Who do you think you are, prancing about like an Orangeman?" That kind of thing.

Sometimes, when these expressions are oft-repeated, the nuance gets lost.

[Enthusiast]

65. This is my interpretation, also, roody.

Mathews is simply wrong. Obama simply does not think this way. He knows he belongs anywhere and everywhere. He knows he IS The President.

[EmilyAnne]

20. Did Obama pee on the White House lawn to mark his territory? No?

Oh, he went bowling with his little girls. How territorial.

[RamboLiberal]

23. Fuck Tweety - Bush was at Camp David or Crawford

almost every F'ing weekend he was in the U.S. And remember how Bush used to knock off early on Friday so he could head for Camp David? And the bicycle rides in middle of the day.

Bet Obama doesn't even come close to this record. By my rough calculation Bush spent 58% of the weekends of his presidency at Camp David and over 33% of his presidency on vacation.

George W. Bush is today making his final visit to Camp David as president.

He will likely miss the place: According to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, today's trip marks Mr. Bush's 149th visit to the presidential retreat. The planned three-day stay, during which the president is being joined by family and former and current aides, will bring his total time spent at Camp David to all or part of 487 days.

Yes, that's 487 days. And Camp David is not even where the president has spent the most time when not at the White House: Knoller reports that Mr. Bush has made 77 visits to his ranch in Crawford during his presidency, and spent all or part of 490 days there.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/16/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4728085.shtml

[gblady]

38. unbelievable....

that Bush spent 1.3 years at Camp David...
and 1.3 years at his ranch...

2 2/3 years vacation out of 8 years...

that's a lot of down time.

[July]

61. Let's not forget spending every August in Kennebunkport.

Sometimes for more than a month, IIRC.

And most of the rest of his time was spent gladhanding at RNC fundraisers, catapulting propaganda in photo ops, and traveling expensively on our dime to other countries. With the bike rides and early bedtimes, I doubt he put in 15 hours a week.

[EffieBlack]

24. I thought exactly the same thing when I heard him say that!

He seems to think that the President doesn't really deserve to do all of these things - as if he doesn't REALLY belong there . . .

[AlCzervik]

25. "Tweety chose to spin it negatively" and yet you choose to watch him, just say no

to ugly television.

Life is far better with no cable "opinion" shows.

[Howardx]

31. haha great point

vote with your remote

[Beacool]

28. I'll say the same thing I always say when someone gets aggravated by Tweety

Why watch him?????????? The guy is an a-hole and a sexist creep. I stopped watching him many months ago and I'm better for it.

:shrug:

[Raine]

29. Tweety just loves to hear himself talk

no matter what stupidity comes out of his mouth! x(

[Occam Bandage]

30. I love Tweety, but this was kind of strange.

Also Orangemen suck.

[Mr. Sparkle]

33. The media does not fear the Democrats, like they do the Republicans.Its Time they played Hardball

pun intended!

[DFLforever]

37. Weird. Knowing Tweety, he probably meant it as a compliment.

[WinkyDink]

48. I know. I now long for the days of LBJ and Mayor Daley. They took no crap.

[jberryhill]

34. Yeah, well...

Talk to me for an hour a day and don't piss me off.

It'll happen.

[dana_b]

35. well.... since he can't take the family to a REAL bowling

alley or on a vacation, why shouldn't they take advantage of what is available to them? They have to live in a bubble so they need these things.

[gauguin57]

40. Please PLEASE leave the president alone to get away for a couple of days and blow off steam.

The guy has had dark circles under his eyes since months before the election ... I'd like my president to be able to get away with his family a little bit and relax == he has the whole weight of the world on his shoulders.

And, hello? Didn't Dumbya set a record for vacation days in an 8-year presidency, or something? Go pick on HIM for a change, Tweets.

[roody]

41. Why? Because he is black.

[Thrill]

50. Of course, when was the last time you saw articles

written about how many Perks the President gets?

[NatBurner]

45. Man, The President™ needs to use that bowling alley as much as possible

have you seen the man bowl?

he's HORRIBLE!

as long as he doesn't roll on shabbos, who cares?

[Window]

49. Tweety is a jerk. He just cannot get used to the fact that we have a black President.

I'm sure he never thought he'd see this in his lifetime. Tweets is overwhelmed. Pitiful, racist shit.

[Baikonour]

53. Tweety is schizophrenic, I think.

One day, he's yelling at conservatives on his show, the next day he's kissing their asses.

He's got no backbone.

[Claire Beth]

54. I don't think Chris Matthews meant that as offensive...

I saw it too. Matthews really likes Obama (and voted for him) and I didn't take the comment in a way that was meant to be offensive, he was just stating the fact that our President is checking out everything as anyone would want to do.

[otohara]

57. I Agree

Heck if I just became President, you bet I'd be running around the White House with my kids, checking out everything. The girls must be having a ball....bowling ball.

[ourbluenation]

67. I agree, but it was a stupid comparison. I can't stand those little bowler-hatted assholes.

Ireland be free.

[Ichingcarpenter]

55. Tweety voted for Micheal Steele in the 2006 Senate Race

He is also hung up on his Roman Catholic Irish heritage to the
point of a obsession.

[MADem]

64. Well, I know his brother ran on the GOP ticket as PA LT GOV.

Didn't win.

[bdamomma]

56. the media like the repigs are showing what a$$holes they continue to be.

[Cleita]

62. You guys always complain about Tweety, yet you continue to give him

ratings by watching him. The best way to make him go away is to tune out his show. He will disappear for the most part except for becoming an occasional guest for laughs on KO or Rachel Maddow like Pat Buchanan is today. (Remember Buchanan once did have his own TV show.)

[mitchum]

63. That mackeralsnapper apparently has "the troubles" on his brain