Congratulations to President Obama!

[leftofthedial]

Passage of the recovery bill is a landmark accomplishment.

Here's hoping there is enough stimulus left in there to get things moving positively and that when the time comes for more stimulus that he has enough political juice left to get it done.

He is off to a strong start!

:thumbsup:

[Cha]

1. Yes, here's to

a good start in the first of a long line of accomplishments to get our economy going strong again.

[firedupdem]

2. amen to that..

:toast:

[Cha]

3. Really!

:toast:

[doc03]

4. Recovery bill? This is nothing more than

a government giveaway program that will only dig us a deeper hole. This thing will do little to stimulate anything other than selling more debt to foreign governments. I am shocked at the waste in this bill, it's a disgusting bunch of earmarks for every damn useless pet project imaginable. I see why the Republicans wouldn't support it, it won't help one bit, in two years good-by House and Senate in 2012 another Republican President.

[cliffordu]

5. well....

:popcorn:

[ProSense]

6. You don't even know what's in the bill do you?

Stop ranting, read.

[doc03]

10. I read the summary of the bill that's is why

the ranting. I was unaware of just how bad the thing was until I read the thing. It's going to dig us a hole we will be decades getting out of. Bush doubles the national debt and puts us in a recession than Obama comes in and adds even more wasteful spending to it. I am sorry if I have to disagree, but that's the way I see it as an American not as a die-hard Democrat. When a Democrat screws up I am not going to make excuses for him.

[Baltoman991]

15. Problem is

you're wrong. Now, you screwed up in your analysis, are you going to make excuses for yourself or accept the fact that you don't really have a clue about the bill?

[The Doctor.]

22. Got excerpts?

That would be enlightening.

[Jennicut]

7. Ha ha. But then why has the support of the American people increased in the last few days?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114577/Stimulus-Support-Edges-Higher.aspx

Its near 60%. And what is in the bill is darn good for our country. We have been dug in whole by not spending on the things we needed and spending on a needless war and allowing deregulation.

[PretzelWarrior]

8. face it. you don't know what you're talking about

be intellectually honest and say "I'm a cheap bastard who doesn't like to waste money therefore I am projecting that onto a complex economic debate about which I know very little."

What do you propose? Nothing? Okay...of not "nothing" then what? Oh wise one...tell me what spending wouuld have helped stimulate our economy more.

I'll be waiting. Don't come here and run your shit and not be able to back it up.

[doc03]

9. OK $789 billion for infrastructure, no tax cuts, no

money for pork projects. Only a very small fraction of this actually goes for infrastructure, this bill will do little to help the economy. All this bill does is add another $789 billion to an already huge deficit.

[ProSense]

12. You're still talking nonsense

$46 billion for transportation projects (alone) and $70 billion in green spending

Also, the bill is already inspiring job creation.

[Jennicut]

13. The poster is talking total nonsense

[The Doctor.]

24. There is a case to be made that the infrastructure spending

was marginal, and held out to tease a whole bunch of crap out of the process.

But in that same construct, I have to admit the spending is ultimately a good thing.

[leftofthedial]

29. the bill's stimulative effect was severely weakened by the repukes

they hope they weakened it enough to make it ineffective.


I hope there is enough left in it to do some good. Personally, I believe the tax cuts are far too large and far too large a percentage of the overall bill. They will have virtually zero stimulative effect, as we have seen repeatedly over the last 28 years, and they will, as you say, add to the deficit.

[grantcart]

32. It doesn't matter - there is enough stimilus in the bill to show what stimiulus

does and when he can show concrete results in a year he can go back and get more.

[leftofthedial]

38. knock on wood

spit over your left shoulder

[northernlights]

31. tax cuts: for low/middle income, SS & disabled

at least here in Maine. That's what Obama campaigned on and these are the people who will spend it because they must to survive.

Home buyer tax break makes housing more affordable for those who want to own, and put a floor under those who are forced to sell now at a huge loss. (I know for me this one is what could make or break me).

Grants to schools and hospitals for energy efficient projects (in other words, tax breaks for infrastructure projects with dividends: cut costs and dependance on foreign oil)

Direct infrastructure spending:
$150M to highways and mass transit
$26M to affordable & public housing (purchasing and rehabbing homes which *also* will help put a floor under the housing collapse)
$30M to energy projects
$51M for clean drinking water

Other useful spending:
$8M+ for law enforcement (including some infrastructure)
$82M for food stamps, child care grants for low income families, head start, senior meals, school lunch program
$250M to education, to help defray the severe budget cuts

I'm loving what I see. The only thing I'd like to have seen is some support to Maine General, who may be forced to cut back on staff. I'm hoping to be one of a couple lucky MLT students that get lab assistant jobs...or at least, used to. Hiring is now in the air...

[Baltoman991]

16. By the way

the reason the Republicans won't support it is because they know it's a start in the right direction and when President Obama succeeds, they can kiss their political careers goodbye for a long time.

Seriously, all of a sudden Republicans care about the American People? Not on this planet.

[The Doctor.]

25. That made a little too much sense...

Think I'm gonna sit for a while.

[Hieronymus]

17. Are you for real?

[dbmk]

26. Oh, so thats why the republicans would not support it.

I was wondering, but thanks for clearing that up.

[phleshdef]

30. "government giveaway program"... anyone that would even utter that phrase here should be banned...

for being a fucking con troll.

[CTLawGuy]

33. Mitch McConnell?

is that you?

[freemarketer6]

35. Excellent . The bill will actually do more harm than had nothing

been passed at all. The tax cuts will be saved not spent, creating zero multiplier effect. The spending on infrastructure is so small they might as well have eliminated it altogether. So we have a stimulus bill that will create a negative stimuli and a Treasury Secretary with no plan who resides inside of Bankers pockets. I think you know what's going to happen. Did you read Ballmer's article on the certainty of depression now?

[Name removed]

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[SidneyCarton]

39. It's Happy Hour! get your hemlock!

Now with extra wormwood to make it all the more bitter.

:eyes:

[AtomicKitten]

11. Agree with him or not, he is a leader. n/t

[DCBob]

14. Yes, this was a major victory and could set the tone for the rest of his presidency..

Congrats to all involved!

[leftstreet]

18. Well, um...if he had to 'fight' to get this meager thing

he certainly won't get anything bigger or better.

I still don't get why the most popular Prez with the most POLITICAL CAPITAL in recent history had to compromise with the Reaganite nutjobs whom the voters COMPLETELY and OVERWHELMINGLY rejected.

But that's just me.

So yeah. If this were the Congressional Special Olympics, I guess Obama pfft 'medaled.'

:wtf:

[leftofthedial]

27. shhhhh!

can't you see we're all singing "Kumbaya"?

[leftstreet]

36. oops, sorry

Continue...

[leftofthedial]

37. I hope you at least brought marshmallows

[Life Long Dem]

19. Ain't we picky?????

Sorryy... I give this report a :thumbsdown: :eyes:

[Binka]

21. Boo Hoo You And Your Lousy Spelling & Grammar

Cry yourself to sleep.

[Life Long Dem]

23. Me no the one boo hoo. Me say shut the trap you the boo hoo.

why you graid me werk

[Binka]

41. Shut your trap rook

Welcome to IGNORE. Bye Bye baby. Go back to school. Don't have time for your BULLSHIT.

[leftofthedial]

28. you are an Obama hater.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

20. He is, indeed. K&R. (nt)

[WI_DEM]

34. It's not a great bill, but it's a good bill with more for infrastructure than the Senate

bill and one of the biggest bills ever passed to deal with our declining infrastructure. So, Congrats President Obama.