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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:19 PM
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So which of Obama's Lincoln speeches did you think was better?
He actually gave three speeches: one last night at the reopening of Ford's Theatre, one at this morning's Lincoln Bicentennial in Washington and then the third at the dinner in Springfield tonight.

Which one was best?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:21 PM
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1. Did we get to see the one last night?
I haven't seen the one from this afternoon yet but I'm hoping it's waiting for me on my DVR.

Was the one at Ford's Theater recorded/broadcast? If so, point the way!
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:32 PM
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3. Obama's speech at Ford's Theatre
Michelle and I are so pleased to be here to renew and rededicate this hallowed space. We know that Ford's Theatre will remain a place where Lincoln's legacy thrives, where his love of the humanities and belief in the power of education have a home, and where his generosity of spirit are reflected in all the work that takes place.
It has been a fitting tribute to Abraham Lincoln that we've seen and heard from some of our most celebrated icons of stage and screen. Because Lincoln himself was a great admirer of the arts. It is said he could even quote portions of Hamlet and Macbeth by heart. And so, I somehow think this event captured an essential part of the man whose life we celebrate tonight.

As commemorations take place across this country on the bicentennial of our 16th President's birth, there will be reflections on all he was and all he did for this nation that he saved. But while there are any number of moments that reveal the exceptional nature of this singular figure, there is one in particular I'd like to share with you.

Not far from here stands our nation's capitol, a landmark familiar to us all but one that looked very different in Lincoln's time. For it remained unfinished until the end of the war. The laborers who built the dome came to work wondering whether each day would be their last; whether the metal they were using for its frame would be requisitioned for the war and melted down into bullets. But each day went by without any orders to halt construction - so they kept on working and kept on building.

When President Lincoln was finally told of all the metal being used there, his response was short and clear: that is as it should be. The American people needed to be reminded, he believed, that even in a time of war, the work would go on; that even when the nation itself was in doubt, its future was being secured; and that on that distant day, when the guns fell silent, a national capitol would stand, with a statue of freedom at its peak, as a symbol of unity in a land still mending its divisions.

It is this sense of unity that is so much a part of Lincoln's legacy. For despite all that divided us - north and south, black and white - he had an unyielding belief that we were, at heart, one nation, and one people. And because of Abraham Lincoln, and all who've carried on his work in the generations since, that is what we remain today. Thank you, and good night.

> http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2009_02_08.php
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:38 PM
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5. ty NT
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:33 PM
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4. ... and his speech from this morning:
Remarks by the President at the Lincoln Bicentennial Celebration

For Immediate Release February 12, 2009
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
AT A LINCOLN BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION
U.S. Capitol
Washington, D.C.
11:47 A.M. EST

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Thank you. Pease, be seated. Thank you very much. Madam Speaker, Leader Reid, members of Congress, dear friends, former colleagues, it is a great honor to be here -- a place where Lincoln served, was inaugurated, and where the nation he saved bid him a last farewell. As we mark the bicentennial of our 16th President's birth, I cannot claim to know as much about his life and works as many who are also speaking today, but I can say that I feel a special gratitude to this singular figure who in so many ways made my own story possible -- and in so many ways made America's story possible.

It is fitting that we are holding this celebration here at the Capitol, for the life of this building is bound ever so closely to the times of this immortal President. Built by artisans and craftsmen, but also immigrants and slaves -- it was here, in the rotunda, that Union soldiers received help from a makeshift hospital; it was downstairs, in the basement, that they were baked bread to give them strength; and it was in the Senate and House chambers where they slept at night and spent some of their days.

What those soldiers saw when they looked on this building was a very different sight than the one we see today, for it remained unfinished until the end of the war. The laborers who built the dome came to work wondering each day whether that would be their last; whether the metal they were using for its frame would be requisitioned for the war and melted down into bullets. But each day went by without any orders to halt construction, and so they kept on working and kept on building.

When President Lincoln was finally told of all the metal being used here, his response was short and clear: That is as it should be. The American people needed to be reminded, he believed, that even in a time of war, the work would go on; the people's business would continue; that even when the nation itself was in doubt, its future was being secured; and that on that distant day, when the guns fell silent, a national capitol would stand, with a statue of freedom at its peak, as a symbol of unity in a land still mending its divisions.

It is this sense of unity, this ability to plan for a shared future even at a moment where our nation was torn apart, that I reflect on today. And while there are any number of moments that reveal that particular side of this extraordinary man, Abraham Lincoln -- that particular aspect of his leadership -- there's one that I'd like to share with you today.

In the war's final weeks, aboard Grant's flagship, The River Queen, President Lincoln was asked what was to be done with the rebel armies once General Lee surrendered. With victory at hand, Lincoln could have sought revenge. He could have forced the South to pay a steep price for their rebellion. But despite all the bloodshed and all the misery that each side had exacted upon the other, and despite his absolute certainty in the rightness of the cause of ending slavery, no Confederate soldier was to be punished, Lincoln ordered. They were to be treated, as he put it, "liberally all round." What Lincoln wanted was for Confederate troops to go back home and return to work on their farms and in their shops. He was even willing, he said, to "let them have their horses to plow and ¼ their guns to shoot crows with."

That was the only way, Lincoln knew, to repair the rifts that had torn this country apart. It was the only way to begin the healing that our nation so desperately needed. What Lincoln never forgot, not even in the midst of civil war, was that despite all that divides us -- north and south, black and white -- we were, at heart, one nation and one people, sharing a bond as Americans that could bend but would not break.

And so even as we meet here today, in a moment when we are far less divided than in Lincoln's day, but when we are once again debating the critical issues of our time -- and debating them sometimes fiercely -- let us remember that we are doing so as servants of the same flag, as representatives of the same people, and as stakeholders in a common future. That is the most fitting tribute we can pay -- the most lasting monument we can build -- to that most remarkable of men, Abraham Lincoln. Thank you. (Applause.)

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:25 PM
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2. What a delight to have a president who gives speeches that are good, better, best
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:48 PM
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6. I didn't get to hear his first two speeches...
but his speech tonight was fantastic!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:51 PM
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7. Tonight's by far..
It was masterful, imo.

Here is a link to it for those who did not see it:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/29170751#29170751
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