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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:17 PM
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the mice story is a LIE

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/stimulus-package/pelosi-staff-conservative-talking-point-about-30-million-for-mice-is-fabrication/


Pelosi’s Office: Conservative Talking Point About $30 Million For Mice Is “Fabrication”


Is there really $30 million in the new stimulus package devoted to saving the salt marsh mouse in Nancy Pelosi’s district?

That’s what some conservatives are now charging, and the claim seems to be gaining some traction with elected GOP officials and conservative media outlets, who are using it to argue that the bill is stuffed with Dem pork.

But there isn’t any such money in the bill. And Pelosi’s office is saying that the claim is a “total fabrication.”

How did this one get going? Yesterday a House Republican leadership staffer circulated a background email, which I obtained, charging that GOP staffers had been told by an unnamed Federal agency that if it got money from the stim package, it would spend “thirty million dollars for wetland restoration in the San Francisco Bay Area — including work to protect the Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse.”

The GOP staffer’s email didn’t say what agency it was. It didn’t say the money was actually in the package — just that an unnamed agency had said they would spend it on that if they got it.

But conservatives picked up the claim and began stating as fact that the mouse money was in the bill. On Fox News yesterday, Mike Huckabee blasted the bill for containing money for Pelosi’s mouse, and today GOP Rep Dan Lundgren hammered the alleged mouse money in the bill as “absurd.” Today’s Washington Times ran with a story called: “Pelosi’s mouse slated for $30M slice of cheese.”
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:25 PM
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1. Too bad. We could use money for wetland restoration. n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:31 PM
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2. wetland restoration
thirty million dollars for wetland restoration in the San Francisco Bay Area — including work to protect the Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse.

"Including" - not "consisting solely of".

Even if they do get the money, and even if they do spend it on wetland restoration, there is nothing in their statement saying that they are spending the entire $30 million on protecting this mouse.

These idiot Republicans either can't read English or they're lying a-holes. Probably both.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:10 PM
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6. they definitely are lying a-holes ...
this is like pointing out the fact that an abstinence-only teaching Repuke candidate's daughter got pregnant as an unwed teen, and the media turns it into "Liberals are whining that she didn't get a late-term abortion!"
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:32 PM
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3. That's pretty funny. Typical twisting of facts and fabrication.
But very representative of the bigger battle.

The right is against environmental programs, period.

They've had success in the past picking on efforts to save an endangered species, a snail, a lizard, a little or plant that stands in the way of development and "progress".

Maybe more of America will see them for what they are, greedy lying selfish bastards.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:34 PM
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4. it continues to amaze me how many of the congresspeople have no clue
What is in the bill they are voting on and will take any tom dick or Harry's word for what is in it.

Makes me want to sock em in the nose.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:34 PM
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5. What happened to fact checking before running a story
Washington Times? This shows you can't believe much of anything you hear or read. We have to search for the truth ourselves!

Will bringing back the fairness doctrine help out with stopping this kind of crap going to print?
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:06 PM
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7. The cake is a lie as well.
Or so I've heard.
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