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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:17 PM
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Three talking heads without a clue on MSNBC; Tweety, Chuck Todd, and Pat Buchanan!
They have no clue as to what they are opining about.

They are talking about what the President is doing and not doing,
and how this will effect his presidency.

I can save them time, and tell them that they just don't know,
and they need to STFU, and go back to gossiping about
sex scandals and Octo babies and shit.

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:24 PM
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1. They have to fill up the hour
one way or another. If they do it with mindless drivel, well it's what they do best.

Maybe I'gg watch for a change. It's cold and rainy and I don't feel like doing laundry.

Mz Pip
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:28 PM
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2. All Of A Sudden Wall St Knows Best
fuck Wall St. - they brought down the economy of the world and now whine & by god they are gonna show the new POTUS who had the audacity to call them out on their shitty leadership and greedy behavior.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:54 PM
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8. I second that, "Fuck Wall St." (see below)
CNBC : HOUSE OF CARDS - 120 mins.
2/16/09

David Faber traces the global economic collapse, the origins of which he traces to the period after 9/11 when the Federal Reserve kept interests low in order to revive the faltering economy.

- millions of people fell into the deep end of what would become a trillion dollar market for sub-prime loans -- easy money they just couldn't pass up.

BUSH in 2004 bragging about the economy:

"This economy is strong and growing stronger. New home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever."

Just one month later, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan encouraged the mortgage industry to come up with new kinds of loans so even more people could buy homes.

"American consumers might benefit if lenders provided greater mortgage product alternatives to the traditional fixed-rate mortgage."

"It was music to the ears of the Wall Street bankers like Michael Francis."

It can't hurt when the fed chief comes out there saying we need more alternatives.

It's not going to hurt at all. The unfortunate thing that grew out of that was a program that was a very inappropriate loan for a lot of people who took it and it became extremely popular. The program had a name only a banker could love, a pay option negative amortization adjustable rate mortgage.

It was designed to help first-time home buyers who couldn't actually afford the cost of the loan. They would have the option to pay part of the interest they owed each month. The unpaid interest was added to the total amount of the mortgage. Your payment goes down, your interest rate goes up and the difference between what you pay and what your interest rate says you should pay gets added to principle. Your mortgage balance actually continues to increase and instead of paying it down, you're paying it up. How much worse could it be.

Even this kind of loan seems to be acceptable as long as home prices continue to go up.

<much, much more> Worth checking local listings for repeats.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:33 PM
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3. The next segment with Christa F. was way more illuminating....
Even if I already learned about how the economy got where it is via articles posted here at DU. :P

:hi:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:47 PM
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6. Yes. Poor Tweety did not realize depositors would be insured against losses at failed banks.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 05:47 PM by flpoljunkie
Up to $250,000 (more, if you know how) as a matter of fact--at least through 2009.

http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insuringdeposits/


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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:49 PM
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7. "(more, if you know how)" - do tell?!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:22 AM
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23. Yes. Check out the FDIC link.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:35 PM
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4. I can't stand Chuck Todd. He's a lying sack of shit
Always claiming he has talked to some unnamed person in Congress. And always that unnamed person has something negative to say about Obama
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:46 PM
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5. The only way MSNBC will ever change is if their ratings go down
You can post about it here all you want and it's not going to change a damn thing.

Turn the TV off Frenchie -- you are giving them ratings. And that is exactly why they do what they do. To drum up drama anyway they can so that a few more thousand people turn them on to watch the unfolding circus and they can justify their existance to their advertisers.

Turn 'em off and we might see different faces on MSNBC next time it's time to renegotiate contracts.

Posting on here multiple times a day is preaching to the choir. We know Tweety is a blathering weather vane and Chuckie is a novice. It's a given. So, turn your TV off, help kill their ratings instead of feeding them and someone who can actually effect change might start to listen.


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italiangirl Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:01 PM
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9. MSNBC
Don’t bother writing to MSNBC, I found that to be futile. They don’t care. The more letters they get, even negative ones about the show, the more they like it. That means you are watching and that is good for the sponsors. Grow a spine and stop watching. Hit them where it hurts….ratings. The sponsors will flee and the hot shots will get the message. Proof: MTP ratings are the worse since David Gregory took over. Wise up.


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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:20 PM
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16. Think you replied to the wrong post, as I was already advocating turning them off to sink ratings.
And if it was in regards to the OP, I don't think she needs to "get a spine" or "wise up". I was just proffering my opinion on how we might get them to change.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:02 PM
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19. Unless your a ratings family..
it shoudn't matter if you're tuned in or not. Mailing letters, positive or negative, shows you do watch however. So don't write. Just boycott the products that advertise.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:28 AM
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22. Welcome to the 21st century....everything you watched via cable can be tracked minute by minute. n/
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:03 PM
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10. They Are in 3rd Place
Can't go any further down than that in the land of cable TV News.

watching MSNBC is like being on a roller coaster ride.

Sometimes they "seem" progressive in their delivery, (except in the morning with that Nazi Scarborough} but more often than not, they sound like Fox News....until....Keith Olberman and Rachel air - then reality sinks in.

Tweety is just plain neurotic.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:12 PM
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13. From 7-10 (not including 10), they are either contending for 2nd or are in 2nd.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 06:40 PM by MadBadger
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:17 PM
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15. Yep, If It Weren't for KO & RM
adding to their daily averages - they would really suck in the ratings game.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:39 PM
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17. Let me rephrase that completely. From 7-10. Tweety has been beating Dobbs a lot lately
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:05 PM
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11. See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Evil
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:17 PM
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14. LOL
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:10 PM
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12. I agree with you on the latter two, not the former.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:33 PM
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18. Matthews is a slobbering loudmouth fool.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:09 PM
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20. There a study that shows the more famous the pundit, the more wrong s/he usually is
http://www.newsweek.com/id/184815

Watch Schuster, he's been MUCH better lately than any of them.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:34 PM
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21. The MSNBC bashing is funny
The network that gives us Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow and now looking for another Olbermann/Maddow-like progressive host at 10? Of all networks to bash.
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