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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:09 AM
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The multi-pronged Attacks against Pres. Obama are starting to work -
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 03:37 AM by FrenchieCat
He has lost 4 points in his approval rating in 4 days!

He's down to 62 percent approval according to Gallup.
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx


Guess if the media repeats really loudly 789 BILLION DOLLARS STIMULUS and make it seem like it will do very little, some folks start buying it.

Guess he's not superman afterall. :shrug:
Guess he he's just a human President given a multitude of fucked up situations,
and given about 10 minutes to solve them all, and make everything better!

So when one wants to kick his ass for what was said in a distorted article without attribution,
just remember how much help overeacting will do to help in achieving our common goals. By that, I mean, we can inflame attitudes by posting some fucked up article accusing President Obama of standing by Bush's secrecy or some bullshit like that, but then we must be just as willing to kiss universal Health Care goodbye based on the badwill that we are spreading just because we can.

Just sayin'.


BTW, The Talking heads are gonna love this!
They are going to be rubbing their hands shortly!
It will be their story starting tomorrow.....


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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:31 AM
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1. Yes, Cutie,
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 03:31 AM by elleng
you KNOW a lie repeated often enough

"A lie, repeated often enough, will end up as truth. Dr Paul Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's Minister of Propaganda (1933-1945), invented the Big Lie theory."

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-04/14/content_323217.htm


The U.S. media, along with Reps, is a constant follower of Goebbels.

We had, and have NOW, a HUGE task.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:33 AM
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2. Sometimes I believe some of us are too righteous for our own good.
And when the shit goes all crazy, we'll be scratching our collective asses,
trying to figure out what happened.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:31 PM
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19. In order for us to get the country back,
we're going to have to have a very big pile of bodies of Big Media members stacked up somewhere. All this hand-wringing and whining is just prolonging the inevitable.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:36 AM
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3. And as to your point, Frenchie,
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 03:38 AM by elleng
I PRAY (and I am NOT a pray-er) that it will not be lost on folks here. If WE could incorporate it into our thinking selves, we could REALLY be constructive.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:38 AM
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4. I'm hip!
Cause that is the only way we will be able to help ourselves....since at the end of the day,
that really is the point.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:38 AM
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5. I don't expect his approval ratings to stay in the upper 60's for long, that would be Superman....
...ratings or ratings after rallying like Clinton during impeachment.

When the stimulus kicks in and after a couple of years of upswings
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:40 AM
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6. Well, I'd like it to stay up for as long as possible.....
Cause he's got a mighty long way to go and a mighty number of things to get done.....probably more to get done than any other President before him.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:56 AM
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7. Yeap, I agree so I'd be looking at his 4 week average using PEW, Gallup and some other non
...con affiliated polling resources. But a 59 DEM member senate can go along way to hedge against anything below 50, Franken issues need to be cleared if not then the polling becomes more important before Obama makes another big move.

Those bastard in the Bush admin knew he'd have to use some of those popularity points for something like the stimulus...I don't trust them
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:00 AM
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8. And it is becoming more and more obvious that the shit
is worse than we ever thought.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:04 AM
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9. Here's a good article.....
Less than a month into the Obama presidency it has become clear bipartisanship will be as much a pipedream for Mr. Obama as it was for George W. Bush and Bill Clinton before him — and for FDR more than 70 years ago.

Like FDR, Mr. Obama plans to use his congressional majorities – and public support in the polls – to enact his agenda.
http://blogs.wsj.com/capitaljournal/2009/02/17/obama-follows-fdrs-path-to-economic-recovery/?mod=googlenews_wsj
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:36 AM
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10. .
We are teetering on the edge of an economic abyss. Many people are in denial about the dangerousness of our position. If the US falls into depression the world falls with us. A global economic disaster means millions of people will die. Hunger. Disease. Riots. Social upheaval. War.

One of the important weapons in Obama's arsenal to make the changes needed to deal with this crisis is the support of the American people.

This is no tea party. It's not political games as usual. You expect the stupid Repugs to attack Obama, and the MSM to facilitate them, but to see some people on the left joining with the Repug/media gang to undermine Obama is very disappointing. In our current circumstances it's downright scary.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:51 AM
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11. I guess folks aren't thinking about the whole.....
just about their little bit.

Wonder what they'll do once it affects them in a way
that they couldn't have ever imagined?

Blame the President, I guess. :shrug:
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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:38 AM
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12. And they still think we don't need the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 07:07 AM
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13. CNN is horrible,
like the rest. Their one sided criticism will have an effect. Like I have said a million times, The media is our biggest challenge.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:58 PM
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15. Yes it certainly is!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 07:18 AM
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14. Look- the corporate media isn't just going to up and change its stripes
We're dealing with an ingrained system and inertia.

Fact is- the people whose behaviors got us to this point are going to gnash about like cornered animals. It's to be expected.

Which means that all of us- and our representatives need to act accordingly.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:00 PM
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21. it would be funny if Fox, CNN etc went bankrupt!!!
some of the newspapers are in deep trouble
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:02 PM
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16. It's the weekend slump....
... that he always goes through. He was even today and will no doubt go up tomorrow.

The cool kids (ie the Obama supporters) have social lives and aren't home on the weekends when the Gallup folks call like the right wing losers are. :)

This happened all during the election. Breathe Frenchie, breathe! :)
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:04 PM
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17. Yeah, I mean, it's been a whole 30 days, and it's not all fixed
Slacker.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:15 PM
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18. More recent polls
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:15 PM
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24. Thanks!
Guess he is doing pretty good, although they ain't done trying.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:34 PM
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20. Polls this early mean little at this point. A year or two is better at determining direction.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:06 PM
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22. I'm sorry I caused Obama's approval to go down
will you ever forgive me?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:14 PM
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23. Did you?
Didn't get to your gripe quickly enough? :sarcasm:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:26 PM
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25. I think Obama will be fine. He's a leader and the MSM can't touch that.
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 11:28 PM by AtomicKitten
Sure they will try. The rightwing loons will keep barking. The difference is we have ammunition in Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Dave Letterman, etc., etc. who are speaking up. SNL moved public opinion in a big way, and I feel pretty okay this go. I'm starting to actually believe Obama's got it.

Edited to bring you:
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:34 PM
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26. For the record, here are *'s numbers for the first 6 months
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. Jan. 13-14, 2009. N=900 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3. LV = likely voters. Except where noted, results below are among registered voters.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the job George W. Bush is doing as president?"

              A    D    U
06/06-07/01   59   28   13
05/09-10/01   59   26   15
04/18-19/01   63   22   15
03/28-29/01   57   24   19
03/14-15/01   56   23   21
02/21-22/01   61   16   23
02/07-08/01   55   16   29
01/24-25/01   46   14   40
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