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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:41 PM
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Obama stumbles in mortgage relief speech.
He said "wrecking havoc", when in fact the correct expression is "wreaking havoc".

However, he did this while demonstrating towering leadership and captaining a course out of a worldwide economic catastrophe.

Also, he did it while NOT torturing people without discerning their guilt or innocence, starting an illegal war, shredding the Constitution, or skewing national policy to circumvent all of the safeguards that keep the wealthy and powerful from profiting at the expense of the rest of us.


So I'm giving him a pass on this one.

:)
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:42 PM
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1. I'll take that as opposed to ANYTHING that Lt AWOL mumbled over the last eight years...
...
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skiddlybop Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:43 PM
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2. Um, you stumbled in posting.
The proper pronunciation is in fact "rek-ing" havoc.

I bet you also "could care less" about things you couldn't care less about, like nuclular proliferation.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:45 PM
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5. Actually,
there are 2 pronunciations, per Merriam-Webster - "rek-ing" AND "reek-ing" are both correct.
Surprised me - I'd thought only the 2nd was correct.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:49 PM
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8. I could care less.
Sarcasm, look into it.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:43 PM
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3. No pass necessary
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 12:44 PM by damonm
Merriam-Webster online gives that as an acceptable pronunciation.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:43 PM
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4. Actually, according to Mirriam-Webster, "wreck"
is the correct pronunciation of "wreak."

http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?wreak002.wav=wreak

Curiosity got the best of me; I didn't know either. :)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:49 PM
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7. So Obama wins..
:fistbump:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:29 PM
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46. Hurrah!
:toast:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:51 PM
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10. They are in the minority. Rhyming it with "wreck" is a colloquially accepted
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 12:51 PM by bleever

pronunciation because it is so often confused with "wreck".

But anyone who actually read the few sentences in the OP (as you did) knows what I was really getting at.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:59 PM
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18. Yeah
>>>Usage Note: Wreak is sometimes confused with wreck, perhaps because the wreaking of damage may leave a wreck: The storm wreaked (not wrecked ) havoc along the coast. The past tense and past participle of wreak is wreaked, not wrought, which is an alternative past tense and past participle of work.>>>

And the American Heritage doesn't even give "wreck" as an acceptable pronunciation for "wreak."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wreaking
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:30 PM
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25. Oh Good you posted this. When I first read "wreak" I thought it was pronounced "wreck".
I just always pronounced it that way. I guess I was right. Meh.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:48 PM
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6. LOL, did you think it was "REEKING havoc?"
Think about it.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:14 PM
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22. Everyone knows it's pronounced "RAKING havoc"!
;)
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:26 PM
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23. He's "baracking" havoc on the GOP.
They don't even know what's hitting them yet.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:30 PM
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26. KORNY!!! But I loved it. ^_^
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asphalt.jungle Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:49 PM
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9. that's the way he pronounces it and it's also correct
he pronounced it that way in Indiana as well.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:55 PM
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12. You're right; it is now an accepted pronunciation.
Damn, even when the guy makes a mistake, he's still right!
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:53 PM
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11. You can stumble in a marathon. Obama will be running 200,000 Marathons to fix America.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:55 PM
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13. The World Is Crumbling All Around Us And Here We Focus On One Word In A Speech......
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 12:58 PM by global1
After 8 years of a chimp that couldn't put two words together - we got people that are focusing on just one word in a very important speech with a very complicated message. I'm sorry - that's just stupid. Come on people - get a life!!!!!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:00 PM
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19. The whole point of the post
was to make fun of the notion that one word is really of any importance. Sorry if the humor was a little too dry to be apparent.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:55 PM
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14. Stupid post. In fact, one of the more idiotic posts I've seen here in some time.
And that's saying quite a lot.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:56 PM
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16. Thank you.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:56 PM
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15. Why so bitter?
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 12:57 PM by Life Long Dem
:shrug:

Help for home owners who are on the verge of losing their house will be able to save it. Timing is everything on this, but I would think this is one reason today was chosen. Perhaps it's just a certain time frame that needs this help for ones who are about to fall through the cracks into the life of an apartment dweller again.

As far as being bitter is concerned, I was just messing w/you:bounce:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 12:59 PM
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17. Okay, you had me going there.
It's funny how many people can't get through even a very brief post before popping off an opinion. :bounce:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:08 PM
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20. FIAL.
:rofl:

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:12 PM
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21. "L'enfer, c'est les autres qui ne lisent pas."
But it was worth a shot.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:27 PM
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24. ANOTHER OBAMA HATER.
.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:31 PM
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27. You can tell by my avatar. nt
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:18 PM
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44. I know all about your avatar thank you very much.
The red white and blue "zero" that so many Obama haters use around here is particularly galling.

He has been president for less than a month, but even before he was elected, the Obama haters were putting this "zero" everywhere.

Well in 3 weeks, he's done a lot more than zero, hasn't he?

FACIAL!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:23 PM
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45. I can't tell if you're serious or not.
All kidding aside, is there really a red, white, and blue "zero" symbol?

And you're absolutely correct: he's set a record for early presidential achievement, and may well be on track to be one of the best presidents ever.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:14 PM
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47. Look at my handle
I am very rarely serious about anything.

Except this post...

hmmm....BOOBIES!!

there, that does it.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:49 PM
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48. (smacking my forehead)
D'oh! You got me.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:31 PM
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28. Err, are people not being a touch hard on bleever....
....it struck me as a lighthearted post :shrug:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:36 PM
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29. Nah, people are just used to being on a hair trigger.
You take risks with irony and subtlety, because not everyone is going to get it.

But thank you, Jackeens, mistress of photo magic.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:39 PM
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31. Reminds me of the old Jack Nicholson (??) quote
“My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch”

:rofl:
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:16 PM
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43. Where did you get that line? I GOTTA remember that...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:54 PM
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33. I had the same thought
Some reactions look like they didn't read very far before jumping.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:37 PM
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30. OMG! You sounded like you might have been insulting Barack
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 01:37 PM by last_texas_dem
so I didn't read the entire post and now I am going to insult you and call you names (even if your post was actually being sarcastic at the beginning and goes on to say a lot of good things about him)!

Still, you sounded like at the beginning that maybe you didn't like Barack and b/c of that you are so dead to me, bleever!!!!!!! Ur a FReeper troll and a h8r- u suck!!!1!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:52 PM
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32. Is our President learning? The question must be asked.
We have yet to learn whether he can co-exist peacefully with fish.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:56 PM
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35. Yes he can!



:yoiks:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:59 PM
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36. I believe he can make the pie higher.
Mmm...pie. :)
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:13 PM
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39. He was probably worrying about how he was going to put food on his family. n/t
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:56 PM
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34. Is this Obama's "(insert: Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin, or Joe Biden)" moment?
I'm just waiting for the headline.:eyes:
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:04 PM
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37. Well, I got it. I think the President was just throwing a bone to the late night guys, so they
would have something to talk about.

:D
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:06 PM
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38. Uh...I wouldn't certainly hope you would give him a pass. He's probably working 12-14 hour
days, flying around the country giving speeches, taking questions from the press, dealing with the Republicants and thinking about how he is going to clean up the Bush mess 24/7.

If he malapprops a word (instead of just outright inventing them)....like I think I just did (ha, ha!), I think that it's more than understandable.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:13 PM
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40. Interesting. I just heard someone else on the teevee pronounce the word
the same way. Maybe on Amy's show yesterday. Okay, who's messing with our vowels? :)
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:14 PM
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41. Only one man can be to blame:
HUGO CHAVEZ!!!!


:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:15 PM
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42. LOL! The Chenis strikes again!
:hi:
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