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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 02:13 PM
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Obama praises habeas corpus ruling (Flashback)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/us/politics/13candida...

Mr. Obama issued a statement calling the decision “a rejection of the Bush administration’s attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantánamo” that he said was “yet another failed policy supported by John McCain.”

“This is an important step,” he said of the ruling, “toward re-establishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law, and rejecting a false choice between fighting terrorism and respecting habeas corpus. Our courts have employed habeas corpus with rigor and fairness for more than two centuries, and we must continue to do so as we defend the freedom that violent extremists seek to destroy.”
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:20 PM
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1. Why do you bring up such inconvenient truths to challenge the audacity of hype? n/t
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 03:21 PM by jody
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:31 PM
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2. Huh? This is a postive old story about Obama
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:42 PM
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3. Obama says “nation committed to the rule of law” but he ignores 600 so-called enemy combatants held
under his command at Bagram prison.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:59 PM
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4. I honestly think that will change eventually, I hope
I think the situation on the ground is such a mess he isn't willing to make any changes yet. I'm not sure he even knows exactly what he is going to do in Afghanistan at this point.

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:12 PM
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5. "change eventually, I hope" -- we may hear many such statements. n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:26 PM
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6. what do you base that on?
even Obama isn't saying that. This statement doesn't suggest this is an interim position.

"This Court’s Order of January 22, 2009 invited the Government to inform the Court by February 20, 2009, whether it intends to refine its position on whether the Court has jurisdiction over habeas petitions filed by detainees held at the United States military base in Bagram, Afghanistan," Acting Assistant Obama Attorney General Michael Hertz wrote in a brief filed Friday. "Having considered the matter, the Government adheres to its previously articulated position."

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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:43 PM
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7. I don't expect it to
However, I will give him some time to deal with the whole mess before condemning him immediately.
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biopowertoday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 10:53 PM
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8. Its a bad way to start his presidency--the world is watching/listening.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 11:42 PM
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9. wrong, incapsulated....haven't you learned anything from dear jody?
CONDEMN HIM NOW!!! DON'T WAIT!!!!! DECLARE DOOM AND GLOOM AND OH NOES!!! OBAMA HAS LET US DOWN!!! RUN FOR THE HILLS THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END!!!!!



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