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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 12:15 AM Original message |
Fire Dog Lake and Down With Tyanny discuss Lizza's column on Rahm today. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks. As I said in the other post here (New Yorker), I'm not a big Rahm fan. He's a jackass . . . |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. Are we supposed to hate Rahm or something? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I am not smearing him. |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
73. Rahm IS A Freaking POS! Ask Some Other Candidates Like Russell, Bowman, Curtis etc. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 05:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. yes, Rahm, known as a very partisan and loyal Democrat, working for the President Barack Obama... |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. wylddlc spreading more propaganda I see..... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Emanuel doesn't work for Obama? He's not a long time friend of Axelrod? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I guess I better remember that this is GD:DLC, where politics is a game and as long as the people in |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. ok, then have fun in a more enlightened forum on DU |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. 'nutgressive'.... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. yep |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Good point, but |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. actually, no |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. You may want to reread the forum rules |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I know them well |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. It's a Progressive forum, who knew? nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. no, it's a Democratic forum |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. No it is not a Democratic Party forum |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. right, and I didn't say it was. I said it was a Democratic forum |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Big D Democratic means the party. nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. And it's big "D" in the forum's description |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It looks like I am gonna need a lawyer. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. SO right, blm. It is not funny. The ridicule becomes cruel at times. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. given that his advice defeats good candidates who take it, no, he's |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. for example? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
68. So the ends justify the means? Rahm is okay if politics is only a "game" |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. Love note to self? Moi? |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. Rahm also opposed Dean's 50 state strategy--he's way too DLC for me |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 05:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. netroot myth |
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Baikonour (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 05:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Really? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. yes, really, the discussion was over allocation of funds |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Here is an article about The Thumpin that goes into more detail. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Eventually, Dean ponied up a $12 million nationwide get-out-the-vote drive. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You really do have contempt, don't you? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. You really do have contempt, don't you? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 05:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Yes, he did and in his best, most gracious signature language. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. thanks for posting mad |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
12. "quick to lose control of his volatile temper" |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
17. UPDATE: From FDL |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. This is how Woodward operated in 2001. Wrote flattering portrayals of Bush in his first book so he |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 03:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
63. Oh, the coddling is needed for the cowering. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
18. Recommended. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
19. rahm and the Illinois 6th election |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Cegelis lost the nomination |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. The Chicago machine picked Duckworth and forced Cegelis out. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. she still lost the primary in '06 and proved she couldn't win by losing the general in 2004 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Duckworth was given all of it on a platter. She lost the general. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. but Christine Cegelis' name was still on the ballot |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Cegelis was shut out by Durbin, Obama, Rahm, and others |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. her name was on the ballot, she'd been running for two years, she was a poor fundraiser |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. That's the spin. It's not the truth. Truth: Cegelis was screwed... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. that's funny, because her name WAS on the official 2006 primary ballot and she herself said ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. The party leaders hurt her fundraising. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. First you said it was spin, now you're saying the party hurt her fundraising. Which is it? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. You take pride in false arguments and spin. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. it's either spin or it's not. It can't be both. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. Actually it can. The Party dries up your funding and then "spins" it that |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. i know all to well what deals were cut during the 2006 election |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
22. That was a puff piece? I thought it made him look shallow and snippy. |
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camera obscura (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. In DC, shallow and snippy can be a compliment. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Lol, I guess so! nt |
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camera obscura (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. Thanks for posting these. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
56. Herr * had his turdblossom who brought disgrace on his |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
60. Nice post , MaFL |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-09 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
61. Recommend. Madflo, keep this burner turned up to HIGH. The only way we will change |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
62. Glenn Greenwald adds his views on the article. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Greenwald...more from him. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
64. thank you for this post! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Most welcome |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
67. Thank you madflo. Rahm is a person of very questionable ethics and |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
69. What they did to Cegelis was a travesty. Worse, it backfired. n/t |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. to the tune of $8 million on Duckworth who lost. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-09 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
71. LOL |
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