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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:10 PM
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Our president today said something great
I heard it on the radio so no link - sorry.

He said we agree on 90% of the Stimulus Bill. But the talking heads keep bringing up the other parts we don't agree on. Why can't we talk about what we all agree on.

He also said he didn't think keeping teachers in classrooms is fluff, helping people stay in their homes is fluff or fixing roads and bridges in fluff. (I loved that he didn't say 'pork'!)

Now if we could just get our pundits on board. Arrgh!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:19 PM
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1. We need to drown out the pundits who don't agree with us...
I don't think we have any chance of getting them to agree...

:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:19 PM
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2. In Search Of An Honest Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5115655&mesg_id=5115655

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Obama didn't mention any names, but he nevertheless made clear that now would be a very good time for everyone to cut the nonsense.

"I think there are some very legitimate concerns on the part of some about the sustainability of expanding unemployment insurance. What hasn't been noted is that that is $7 billion of a $787 billion program. And it's not even the majority of the expansion of unemployment insurance," Obama said. The president added, "If we agree on 90 percent of this stuff, and we're spending all our time on television arguing about 1, 2, 3 percent of the spending in this thing, and somehow it's being characterized in broad brush as 'wasteful spending,' that starts sounding more like politics. And that's what right now we don't have time to do."

Obama went on to say, "I will always be open to honest disagreements, and I think that there are some legitimate concerns that can be raised on a whole host of these issues. You're responsible at the state level. If the federal government gives you something now, and then two years later it's gone, and people are looking to you and starting to blame you, I don't want to put you in that position. You need to think about how this money's going to be spent wisely.

"What I don't want us to do, though, is just get caught up in the same old stuff.... There's going to be ample time for campaigns down the road. Right now, we've got to make sure we're standing up for the American people and putting them back to work."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:36 PM
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7. Yes that's it - thanks!
:hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:21 PM
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3. The media is not the friend of the American People.
They are a pariah owned by big Corporations.

They are nearly traitors to this nation.

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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:48 PM
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9. I think eventually they will be
going down! How long will corporations in trouble afford to pay them to puff up the right all the time? Or... maybe there will be some kind of media oversight committee!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 06:16 PM
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10. In my opinion, they ARE traitors to this nation.
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 06:16 PM by elleng
They no longer play the role envisioned.

'A self-governing society, by definition, needs to make its own decisions. It cannot do that without hard information, leavened with an open exchange of views. Abraham Lincoln articulated this concept most succinctly when he said: "Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe."'


http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/media/freepr/essay3.htm
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:27 PM
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4. the GOP doesn't want teachers, firefighters and wants people out on the streets
the GOP is no friend of the ordinary American people only the greedy guys
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:28 PM
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5. Obama has to constantly
take his case to the People like he did in the primaries and general because the corporatemediawhores work for the repukes.

Right.. Teachers, keeping your homes, and fixing bridges and roads is not fluff.

To the corporatemedia and repukes it's not good unless they're the only ones getting a tax cut. Who do they think is going to watch them and pay their salaries if nobody has any fucking money?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:28 PM
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6. The talking heads are constantly trying to stir up fights where there isn't one. nt
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:45 PM
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8. I'd be glad to hold Hannity's or Rush's head under water.
Oh, you mean talk louder than them.
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