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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:28 AM
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lol, Peggy Noonan to republicans:
" Step to the back of the bus please "

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123568516377286823.html

The rats are deserting the good ship Looneypop.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:29 AM
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1. I like that ... Looneypublicans ...
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:53 AM
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2. Wow. I thought this was an EXCELLENT piece. I think she has
nailed the situation perfectly.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:01 AM
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3. Ms. Noonan is beginning to scare me.
It started during the election with her live mike dissing of Caribou Barbie. And the trend continues after reading the article.

What to make of it? I have come to count on certain things, you know? The sun rises in the east, sets in the west, taxes must be paid, and Peggy Noonan must remain utterly delusional. Not surprisingly, after reading this editorial, I'm struggling with an affliction normally associated with the right: cognitive dissonance. I don't like it, feel sort of lost. No wonder the right-whingers (intended spelling) go stark raving mad. It's not very comfortable here in WTF-land.

P.S. oh, and I'm another sufrommich. :-)
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:08 AM
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4. I expect,if Obama is successful (and I think he will be), we'll start
seeing quite a few of these dyed-in-the-wool republicans expose themselves as nothing more than ego driven talking heads with a need to stay relevant.Ideology doesn't pay the bills. Glad to see another Sue ( or Susanna) from Michigan on the board,it looks like we're from the same county too!
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:16 AM
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5. I've been thinking the exact same thing.
It's really the only way I can get my head around her recent shiftiness. She really does seem to have a need to feel relevant. Poor Peggy.

Yay for Sues! :-)
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:23 AM
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6. Because the moderate Repubs hate the nutso ultra conservative ones
They know their party has been hijacked by a bunch of losers. Old style Repubs ideas of low taxes and small government is not something I like but its better then the nutso brand that the Repub party has been serving up lately and Noonan knows that if they don't quit being crazy they will remain the minority party for a long, long time. I don't see the Repubs bouncing back like the Dems have if Obama keeps being sucessful and popular.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:37 AM
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8. I agree. Chris Matthews said the other night that he thought the
biggest threat to keeping a Democratic president would most likely be a center right republican candidate and I agree.Right now their party is the party of the lunatic fringe and hopefully stays that way for a long time.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:03 AM
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9. And we should do all we can to keep it that way---which means
let Sarah, Rush, and Bobby have the floor for as long as they want.....
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:45 PM
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22. True though McLame was center-right on many issues but he was not genuine to his past.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:28 AM
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7. A very good read. Thanks for posting it.
Recommended.
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:57 AM
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13. Whole of WSJ is unavailable .. so relax .. it will be back
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:52 AM
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10. good one ..loved reading it. NT
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:55 AM
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11. "page unavailable" :(
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:11 AM
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15. Apparently WSJ is down. I googled "Peggy Noonan" and was
able to find the Oped on a conservative site. Here's the first 4 paragraphs (I don't think we're allowed to post the whole thing),but googling will get you the whole thing:

Washington -- A mysterious thing happened in that speech Tuesday night. By the end of it Barack Obama had become president. Every president has a moment when suddenly he becomes what he meant to be, or knows what he is, and those moments aren't always public. Bill Safire thought he saw it with Richard Nixon one day in the new president's private study. Nixon always put a hand towel on the hassock where he put his feet, to protect the fabric, but this time he didn't use the towel, he just put up his feet. As if it were his hassock. And his house.

So with Mr. Obama, about four-fifths of the way through the speech. He was looking from the prompters to the congressmen and senators, and suddenly he was engaging on what seemed a deeper level. His voice took on inflection. He wasn't detached, as if he was wondering how he was doing. He seemed equal to the moment and then, in some new way, in command of it. It happened around here:

"The eyes of all people in all nations are once again upon us—watching to see what we do with this moment; waiting for us to lead. Those of us gathered here tonight have been called to govern in extraordinary times."

"Called to govern" is one of those phrases that lift you out of the grimy proceedings of government and into something loftier. Is that how he sees it? Such a call is "a tremendous burden, but also a great privilege," one entrusted to few. He quoted a letter from a 14-year-old girl named Ty'Sheoma Bethea of Dillon, S.C., whose beat-up school needs help. We've seen this sort of thing done before—the reading of the letter from the child, or the mother who needs health care—and more often than not, it is gratingly corny. But this wasn't. Miss Bethea wrote, "We are just students trying to become lawyers, doctors, congressmen like yourself and one day president, so we can make a change. . . . We are not quitters." She borrowed money for the stamp, and sent it to Washington.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:23 AM
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16. Thanks--good stuff.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:56 AM
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12. It says "page unavailable" now.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:05 AM
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14. Awesome article. I think he was literally President but he defined himself as one with the speech >
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 11:07 AM by cooolandrew
that was pure leadership and highlighted what had been missing for so long.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:13 PM
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17. Peggy Noonan didn't think the Bush presidency was a failed presidency while in it: "Let us savor."
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 12:18 PM by Hissyspit
Hypocrite.

From November 4, 2004:

"Hello, friends. Let us savor.

Let us get our heads around the size and scope of what happened Tuesday. George W. Bush, 43rd president of the United States, became the first incumbent president to increase his majority in both the Senate and the House and to increase his own vote (by over 3.5 million) since Franklin D. Roosevelt, political genius of the 20th century, in 1936. This is huge.

It will be hard for the mainstream media to continue, in the face of these facts, the mantra that we are a deeply and completely divided country. But they'll try!

The Democrats have lost their leader in the Senate, Tom Daschle. I do not know what the Democratic Party spent, in toto, on the 2004 election, but what they seem to have gotten for it is Barack Obama. Let us savor."
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:17 PM
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18. "what they seem to have gotten for it is Barack Obama"
" Let us savor." :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: And savor it we shall.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:24 PM
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19. She's a fucking dingbat.
I'm adding that post to the WSJ comments.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:36 PM
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20. She's an opportunist who sees the conservative manifesto
of her old buffoonish boss starting to rust. She's not really a dingbat,she knows which way the wind blows. She's obviously not willing to go down with the ship along with Rush and Hannity. I'm not giving her props for it, she's a speech writer who was pretty good at crafting language that would best work to grow the conservative brand. She's basically concluded that the brand is dead.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:42 PM
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21. Actually I put that she is an opportunist into the comment I posted to WSJ.
but it is moderated, so i doubt it will show up.

I had to rewrite it because I forgot to use my full name and then left the opportunist part out. Oh, well.

I understand your point, but I've heard her say plenty of dingbat things, too. But yes, it grows out of her opportunism.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:08 PM
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24. Spot on. Well said. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:57 PM
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23. Thanks, Thrill
"Now I know someone's in charge, finally someone's taken ownership of the mess.)"

This is brilliant..

"The White House no longer uses the phrase "stimulus package." They always say "recovery plan." Stimulus is yesterday. When you say it, they give you a wonderfully blank-eyed look and two sentences later weave in the phrase "recovery program.""

She makes some good points..

"Third is an unspoken public sense that we cannot afford another failed presidency, that we just got through one and a second would be terrible. Americans know how much good a successful presidency does for us in the world, in the public mind. The last unalloyed, inarguable success was Reagan. We need another. Liberal? Conservative? That, to the great middle of America, would, at the moment, be secondary. They want successful. They want "That worked." They want the foreign visitor to say, "I like your president." They want to respond, "So do I."




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BlueInPhilly Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:48 PM
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25. Am I the only one who finds Peggy Noonan strangely HOT?
N/T
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:12 PM
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26. LOL....I think so.
Actually she is not that bad considering her age? :shrug:
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