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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:29 PM
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Roland Burris' attorney warns against special election
Posted by Rick Pearson at 5:30 p.m.; updated at 6:32 with Madigan response

U.S. Sen. Roland Burris' lawyer is warning of a fight if lawmakers and Gov. Pat Quinn try to dislodge Burris from office by approving a special election for his Senate seat---and the warning includes an indication that Burris could run in 2010.

Burris has rejected calls for his resignation by several leading Democrats concerned about his various explanations of the extent of contacts he had with allies of former Gov. Rod Blagojevich. Burris was appointed by Blagojevich to the Senate three weeks after Blagojevich was arrested on federal corruption charges that included an allegation he sought to sell the Senate seat vacated by President Barack Obama.

Wright released a copy of a letter he sent today to Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan and the four legislative leaders in response to her formal opinion this week that a special-election law, if approved, would be legal. Wright wrote Madigan was “incorrect” and such a law would lead to “an unlawful election.”

“Senator Burris’ position is clear: the General Assembly will violate clearly established federal law if it creates a special election,” Wright said in his letter. “Additionally, a special election could cost taxpayers up to $50 million.”

Wright cited a 1997 U.S. Supreme Court decision involving Louisiana in which justices struck down a 1975 state law in which congressional candidates ran together, regardless of party, a month before the traditional federal election day in November. Voters only cast a ballot for a federal congressional race in Louisiana in November if a run-off was needed because no candidate got a majority of votes cast in October.

Wright maintained that the unanimous court decision, written by Justice David Souter, noted that Congress established the date for all congressional and Senate elections as the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November in even-numbered years.

“The next such date is November 2, 2010, the same day that Sen. Roland Burris faces re-election,” Wright wrote, a possible indication that Burris will next year run for the post.

Souter’s opinion does note that “when the federal statutes speak of ‘the election’ of a Senator or Representative, they plainly refer to the combined actions of voters and officials meant to make a final selection of an officeholder.”

But supporters of a special election in Illinois argue that they are talking about a “special election” to select an officeholder to fill the remainder of the term that expires in January 2011, not a full six-year Senate term.

Update: Madigan spokeswoman Robyn Ziegler issued a statement tonight.

"The legal analysis in his letter does not apply to the current circumstances. Because president Barack Obama vacated the U.S. Senate seat, the 17th Amendment controls and allows the vacancy to be filled by an election 'as the legislature may direct,'" the statement read.


Also today, U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin told reporters that even if state lawmakers passed a law to hold a special election for Burris' seat, it probably would end up in court.

“I think ultimately if the General Assembly adopted (Madigan') approach it would necessarily go to court to be tested before they would try it. Somebody is going to ask the question, 'can you do this?' And that would of course delay it even further.”

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2009/02/roland-burris-attorney-warns-against-special-election.html

We are going to lose this seat in 2010 if they are not able to get him out Burris will never win re-election. Burris is old desperate man who does not give a damn about the voters of Illinois
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:34 PM
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1. It's time to just ignore him.
Other Senators can ignore him. The press will keep toying with the story but Dems can stop feeding it by ignoring him completely with no comment. If he refuses to resign he'll finish out the term, get easily defeated in the primary, and a more popular Democrat will take the seat in 2010.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:36 PM
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2. maybe.... I'm not sure about another dem taking the seat in 2010 after his BS
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:04 AM
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7. IL is a strong Dem state.
As long as Democrats get a good, well funded candidate, we'll win. It will be close if the Republicans have someone good though.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:36 PM
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3. Burris needs to brush up on the 17th Amendment
Amendment XVII

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any state in the Senate, the executive authority of such state shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, that the legislature of any state may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.


The Illinois legislature would be acting 100% within their consitutionally guaranteed rights and powers to direct a special election at any time.

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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:38 PM
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4. Thanks for the post... I hope the get him out asap
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:47 PM
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5. Courts wouldn't have jurisdiction, either
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 11:47 PM by WeDidIt
The jduiciary has no involvement beyond questions as to fairness:

Article I

Section 5. Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide.


So Madigan's office would file a motion to dismiss immediately based upon Article 1, Section 5 of the constitution and the 17th Amendment. No court in the land has jurisdiction to decide.
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:49 PM
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6. Agreed
with your assessment that "We are going to lose this seat in 2010 if they are not able to get him out Burris will never win re-election. Burris is old desperate man who does not give a damn about the voters of Illinois".

I live in Illinois and Burris is really starting to piss me off. I keep hearing the talking heads say "Illinois won't vote for a republican" which is a load of BS. Blagojevich was our first Democrat governor since Dan Walker left in 1976 and Burris Senate seat was vacated by a Republican before Obama.

Long story short, I think the seat will stay Democrat if Burris gets out soon, but if he keeps this up a Republican winning in 2010 is a very real threat.
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:09 AM
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8. Indeed
We need to hold the seat.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:37 AM
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9. Burris is really not worth all the effort. I say wait and deal with him in 2010.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:48 AM
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10. Lose This Seat To Whom?
The GOOP bench in this state is as thin as anywhere. The only possible candidate is Mark Kirk who has zero name recognition outside his district.

There are plenty of very good candidates for 2010...Jan Schakowsky, Ted Giannoulis, Phil Hare and several others who should be able to hold this seat.

Burris is a party of one now. What ever support he has is well underground and all this blustering by his lawyer (note, Burris didn't have the stones to say this publicly) means nothing. If Quinn wants a special election and the legislature agrees, that's all that matters.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:58 PM
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11. Lose the seat?
If the rationale is only Democrats have characters like Blagojevich and Burris on its side in Illinois, whereas the Republicans are clean politics in Illinois...

Well that is a lie on its face. And if Illinois voters believe it, it doesn't matter if Burris goes now or he goes in a special election. The result will be the same: Democrats will lose the seat.


If Democrats clean up all election political problems and the Attorney General finishes up its business now, Democrats will have a shot with an extraordinary candidate.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:00 PM
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12. call him Tenacious B
he's really hanging in there. :rofl:
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:16 PM
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13. Campaigning for the regular election officially began yesterday.

A bit late to schedule a special election when the regular campaign is already in progress, wouldn't you say?


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