The Left and Right Wings of the Democratic Party are having a meltdown?

[Peacetrain]

Did I get this right?

Both wings of our party are now in an anti-Obama mindset?

Since in many ways they are at cross purposes (economically), what can we do to help the party coalesce on economic issues.

Otherwise we are up ship creek without that proverbial paddle.

We are going to have to get our budget through on 50 votes and Joe.

The republicans are going to do nothing to help. They want to see the country fail, so they can get back in power. With that power comes the right dictatorship with even a more profound effect on our rights than what we had in the last 8 years.

But if we have both wings pulling in such opposite directions, we will not have the 50 votes to get the budget through, and you can kiss Health Care goodbye again.

Seriously, we will sink our own boat.

It is completely up to the Democrats to get this passed.

How do we do this, everyone is going to have to give a little.

[BeFree]

1. Give?

Are you nuts? We don't have to give anything but a hard time to our people.

Pelosi? She's worse than pubbies, and Reid is just as bad.

Well, that's what I read on DU.

[Peacetrain]

3. Well we have to pull them to the table kicking and screaming..but we can't just let them sink

all of us.

[BeFree]

7. What the hell?

Are you one of those optimist types that thinks we are still afloat?

Don't you know Obama's ship has already sunk?

That's what I read on DU. Yep, that we're finished before we even started. It's right here, on DU!

[Peacetrain]

8. Well yeah I did read that, starting three weeks before he was inaugurated

:)

[BeFree]

10. Ahhh, you're a good sport

Hope your thread goes well.

Also hope that our leaders can pull together, mutually recognize the dangers we face, put aside the past differences, vanquish the pubbies, and make progress. I think we can.

[Medusa]

2. It was news to me we had a right-wing of the Democratic party.

:shrug:

[Peacetrain]

5. We have a right, left, middle, and and over the top in economics

Blue dogs are the ones to the right..

[Duke Newcombe]

4. Your concern about our "wings" is noted...

In the meantime the fact that we are in power and trying to represent the improvements in life, security, and prosperity for ALL Americans means regardless of the differences between the "wings", we're moving forward, just the same.

[mix]

6. a good leader will unite us

nt

[FrenchieCat]

9. When you read what the extremists who are calling for revolution

due to the economic catastrophy, ask them what they think of Obama's regulatory framework proposal and how it fits in to his proposal in getting toxic assets off the books of financial institutions.

[Odin2005]

11. When the Pukes are calling him a Marxist and the Naderites are calling him a Corporatist...

...he must be doing something right. I know I'll be bashed for saying this but I get a sense of enjoyment watching people scream bloody murder because their ideological sacred cows are getting gored by an anti-BS supreme pragmatist.

[scribble]

13. Republicans, Democrats and public problems

... This is probably the very oldest oneliner ever uttered to anyone.

It was wrong the first time some Neanderthal said it to a visiting cro magnon. It might even be the reason that Neanderthals went extinct.

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So tell me, if I make a 50% compromised drink consisting of 8oz. milk and 8oz. of coliform bacteria and labeling it as "food," are you any less dead if you drink it?

Here's the deal: Real problems have real causes. Redefining a problem does not make it go away: That's what Republicans do. Letting fat cats dictate a "compromise" solution to a real problem doesn't resolve it, either -- that's what Democrats do. Diluting a good policy with special interest compromise won't resolve a real, serious public problem, any more than mixing food with poison will produce a nutritious meal.

Obama has redefined his problem -- that's something Republicans do. Then he polled all the powerful people (except us) who were lobbying him to get their way -- that's something Democrats do. Now he's handing us a nice, chilled drink of something that he wants us to chug down, smiling all the way. Do you want to take the first swig?

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Somewhere buried in all this is the reality that Obama still has to respect above all else. He has to set aside his preconceived notions and he has to turn a deaf ear to all the lobbyists who do not have our best interests on their agendas, and he has to come up with a well-conceived solution that addresses the problem and not the political fantasies posing as the problem.


Has he? Not if people like you are advising him.

You still think he must be doing something right if he's sold us down the river and some of us are bitching about it.

sc

[Odin2005]

15. You competely misunderstand the statement.

Wishy-washy Centrism is when you try to please both sides. What the statement refers to is the fact that when you try to get things done you inevitably have to gore some ideological sacred cows.

[PassingFair]

12. How we do this is to mount challenges against safe-seat DINOs.

Debbie Stabenow, for one.

[MzShellG]

14. Yup. Seems they are in chicken little mode.

Ya cant speak logic to either group. It's really sad.

[HopeOverFear]

16. SORRY, I won't march lockstep like the Republicans

I don't care if Obama's budget is one of the best D.C.'s seen in years.

:sarcasm:

[quickesst]

17. It's this simple...

There are "democrats" who are helping the GOP to a win in 2012, and there are Democrats who are not. Easy. If Obama fails, we're done. Thanks.
quickesst

[TheKentuckian]

18. I'll take my waterd down good over more shovel fulls of pure crap