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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:10 PM Original message |
Turley (with Rachel Maddow) says that the President has no choice... |
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Top Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Every move that the President makes they complain if he did what they want |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. That's not true. Turley is not "complaining" by pointing out the law. |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Exactly, some are so enamored they will defend anything the president does. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
45. Or doesn't do |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
46. you do understand that not all constitutional scholars agree on |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
51. John Dean understood there was legal defense for those assured by DoJ. Some gray here. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. It'll be "interesting" for one day (tops) on DU then we'll move on to the next bit of rage. |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. There is no positive rage around here... |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. without an attempt at Justice, there is no disincentive for future Presidents to repeat the Bush |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. In the REAL world it could get interesting. |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Maybe we should start a daily DU countdown then - Day 1 Torturers not brought to justice and so on |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. The rage over War Crimes committed in our name... |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. He never said he wouldn't prosecute those who ordered the torture. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Yes, Obama has left a door open to prosecute... |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
52. the focus is on reflection not retribution: Turley knows prosecutions lead to GWB's desk |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Turley said that it wasn't clear whether Obama plans to prosecute others. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. This is maddening... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Keith's rant was still great imo, because it pointed out what happens... |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
4. He could also be protecting his life. |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Some people don't understand how powerful the CIA is... |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. The President or his AG never said they wouldn't prosecute. |
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Boomerang Diddle (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. Well then, if Turley said it, it must be true. n/t |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
10. For the record, I WANT him to protect his politcal butt.... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I think the point he was making is that a President isn't supposed to choose... |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Ahem, who says it's politics? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. I don't think he's a coward. |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
13. Turley has morals and wants to follow the law |
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Boomerang Diddle (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. So you agree with Turley that Clinton should have been impeached? |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. That was his legal opinion, and technically he very well could have |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. So what you're saying is that our President has NO morals?! Nice. I see where you're at. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Is your constitutional expertise so established that you KNOW he's correct? |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. Turley Is No Idiot, |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. He's also no politician. n/t |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Another Thing In His Favor (nt) |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Obviously not since he wouldn't be able to prosecute. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Where Exactly Did I "Speak Against O"? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. Has Turley EVER given a positive word about the President?! Not once. n/t |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Depends on which president you're talking about... |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. He has. He has never said that President O has EVER done something right. n/t |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
24. Keyword is "uphold". What was done in the past he had no say in upholding. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Well, it's upheld for the future by holding the line today. nt |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. There are also international treaty obligations |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. And that might end up bringing the pressure, even on the GOP |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
30. Jonathan Turley |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. I don't understand why Maddow turns to Turley so often. |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
32. Fuck Turley, regardless of the otherwise important topic. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Yes, I cannot bring myself to take him seriously after that. |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. When his contract with MSNBC is up, look for Fox to sign him. |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
33. Well he should enforce the law |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
34. Turley (and many others) ignore 200+ years of actual reality |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. and I suppose that there are many valid reasons for reserving judgment |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
37. turley invents his own law every time he opens his mouth |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
41. Turley either run for office or stfu! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
42. Turley is yet again speaking out his ass. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 07:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Either that, or the OP is. I suspect both of them are. Sen. Feingold gets it where others don't -> |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. The op simply reported what Turley said, without giving an opinion - which means... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
50. Maybe we should also prosecute Bill Clinton for starting extraordinary rendition in 1995... |
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Median Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
57. Is There A President That Turley Has Not Wanted To Impeach? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I don't recall him saying that he wants to impeach Obama. |
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