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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:41 AM Original message |
History Lesson: JFK (In regards to Prosecution of CIA for torture) |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. So we just accept permanent checkmate by the CIA, viz. the Presidency? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. No but we don't go out in a hail of bullets either |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I don't disagree. But how do we finish the work JFK started...? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I don't know - I really wish I did - and I hope Obama can do it |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Plame was outed because her husband was questioning the official story |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. No but the CIA does not take that lightly |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I think the CIA didn't care because they weren't happy with Joe Wilson |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Perhaps if the President were to tell the people who was really running the country |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. He gave us the memos - thats more than any of us could have asked for |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Deleted message |
dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. You'll have to point out to me where I said that |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. it's implied. Actually, it's not implied, you outright said it |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. No I didn't |
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shagsak (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I thought Oswald killed Kenedy |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. You probably wouldn't think that if you spend time reading about |
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shagsak (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
65. trained by the CIA |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. According to a lot of folks on this forum |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
64. That's exactly what they wanted you to think. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
62. That is the same question we should ask those who send our young people to fight in Afghanistan and |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
77. Who do you think ? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Maybe YOU should wage war on the CIA. We'd like to keep our |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Conspiracy Theories are prescriptions for that sort of thing... |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. brilliant reminder, and should be read by every DUer. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
5. Thank you, Taverner. (nt) |
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loveandlight (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. thanks for the info |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. That's what I'm thinking. As a result, I'm contributing extra to the ACLU |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't think it's a good idea |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Or we can support the ACLU in their case |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Agree nt |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. The good man is also a good father. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. There are a lot of children who have lost a parent in an illegal war |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Wow - cold, selfish and emotionless! |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. aint that the TRUTH? God DAMN! |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Would she say JFK's death was worth it too? |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. No I don't |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. I am not the one who is saying some children are more deserving |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I don't want ANYONE'S parents killed! |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
54. Why are you being emotionless toward all the dead kids |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. wait, you're saying the President should be willing to run the same risk of getting killed |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. He should not have run for president if he was not willing to take risks. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. I read today that 'we' tortured kids |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. All this needs to come out in the ACLU case |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. Few years back |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
18. I cannot rec this enough...thank you |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
32. Obviously a certain amount of corruption is necessary ... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Because it beats Anarchy, Theocracy or Full Scale Totalitarianism |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
34. Ray McGovern thinks so. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
37. 36 replies and only 11 recs. What's wrong with that picture? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
41. Oh, another assassination blackmail thread. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Yes, the CIA would NEVER do that would they? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Maybe but it's pretty stupid to transmute a torture discussion into an assassination discussion. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Nice to see you jump all over the board - when you start losing one argument you start another |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Hey, it's your leap, I'm just trying to follow. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I didn't jump anywhere |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. JFK, Allen Dulles, Bay of Pigs, Maxwell Taylor, William O. Douglas, Harry Truman, Arnold Toynbee, |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. And what do these all have in common? DING DING DING - that's right, the "company" |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. And what exactly do they have to do with - DONG DONG DONG - "the memos"? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Trollman, you make me laugh |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Your OP will make more sense at 4:20. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. DUzy! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
52. Clearly Obama had better not fire Allen Dulles |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
53. It's bigger than President Obama |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. +! |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
57. If President Obama |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
60. Bush slandered the CIA by blaming the Iraq "intelligence failures" on them |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. The Bushlers own the CIA, at least the covert ops part. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Oh, I realize that |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
61. Worker bees are not the problem... |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Worker bees become bigger bees. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. I think worker bees will always be worker bees... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. Great info, Taverner. No, it is definitely not a good time, imo. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
66. You're asking the wrong question. |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I agree with you on this. |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Agree completely. It needs to go and the sooner the better. |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. And just in case there are those who think Larry Johnson is now an innocent media pundit. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. good post! |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
74. Do you fight a malignant tumor or do you let it grow? |
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