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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:48 PM Original message |
Proceeding Independently From Political Motive - The Nelson Mandela Approach |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. Exactly! Obama NEEDS To Remain "Above The Fray" And Allow Congress and DOJ To Pursue Justice |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I think only those who don't give a shit about Barack Obama |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. they want revenge, not justice...an eye for an eye |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I'm still trying to find out which part of the constitution they are citing |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Article VI n/t |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. Article VI, the one about the President upholding treaties, including the Geneva Conventions: |
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Top Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. I agree that the president is taking the right approach and it's not all about politics |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes, but that's too |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You must mean, President Kucinich, right? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. FrenchieCat, you know I'm a huge Obama supporter |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. What part of the constitution are you citing in your insistence that |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. This is the problem I have is the politicizing Obama is engaged in |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. You make a good point, but then... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. But that's entirely the point |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. It was not an illegal order at the time, as that has not been settled yet.... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. Upholding the Constitution and the rule of law is not legal "retribution". |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. What part of the constitution? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Where do you want to start? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. The part you are citing of course. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. 6th amendment, 8th amendment,or |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. What parts specifically? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Here's the specific part of the constitution being violated |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That is specifically why it is those making the policies who need to be prosecuted..... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Then you must overturn at least 95% of the Japan War Trial convictions |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I am not trying to have it both ways. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The peons are EVERY BIT as responsible as the policy makers |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Where Do YOU Think Obama Has The Authority To PROSECUTE |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Excuse me |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Barack Obama is constitutionally within his right....... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. where are the pardons, then |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Below that part, underlined a different president already made a treaty |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Quote it for me. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That's Idiotically Simplistic |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. If the Bush Administration Officials are war criminals and Obama has ordered no prosecutions |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Where Has He Ordered "No Prosecutions"???? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Well what the fuck else does this mean |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. So, You Think That Means NO Prosecutions??? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yes, tehre will be NO prosecutions of these criminals |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. LOL!! Well, Thank You Nostradumbass! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. you calling Barack Obama a war criminal |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. No, Frenchiecat, it is a matter of simple law. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. You Know Shit About The Law |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. You might want to look over my psots of the past several months |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. "I doubt there has been anybody more supportive of Obama." |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I think you are wrong and rash on this..... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. First of all, you're wrong |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. You can keep repeating the same thing, but it won't make your argument |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Um |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. You have not cited any constitutional or international law |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. We can agree on one thing |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. There you go! At least everyone is talking about what occurred in reference to torture, |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. "IF" any of these Bush Administration.....is the part that has not yet been determined...... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
53. The United States has excecuted people |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. the crimes 'we' executed people for were much |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. See Post #51. nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. There are so many reasons why... |
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