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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:52 AM
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LOL! Jeb Bush says it's time GOP leave Reagan behind. Freepers respond with "No More Bushes!"
Edited on Sun May-03-09 09:18 AM by jefferson_dem
From this morning's Moonie Times -

Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind
Joseph Curl (Contact)

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that it's time for the Republican Party to give up its "nostalgia" for the heyday of the Reagan era and look forward, even if it means stealing the winning strategy deployed by Democrats in the 2008 election.

"You can't beat something with nothing, and the other side has something. I don't like it, but they have it, and we have to be respectful and mindful of that," Mr. Bush said.

The former president's brother, often mentioned as a potential candidate in 2012, said President Obama's message of hope and change during the 2008 campaign clearly resonated with Americans.

"So our ideas need to be forward looking and relevant. I felt like there was a lot of nostalgia and the good old days in the messaging. I mean, it's great, but it doesn't draw people toward your cause," Mr. Bush said.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/03/gop-listens-in-drive-to-thrive/print/


Conniptions galore at FreeperLand -


It is definitely time to leave the Bushes behind. No more Bushes!

Will we never be rid of the Bushes!

I don’t know many people (including conservative Republicans) who would EVER vote for another Bush for President. EVER. They would stay home.

What does Jeb want us to do, join the communist party?

...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2243151/posts
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:57 AM
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1. Talk about fickle!
:rofl:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:00 AM
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48. hate du jour, but a least they are consistent about the hate part
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:01 AM
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2. Time for the so-called GOP to leave the BFEE behind, too
Edited on Sun May-03-09 09:02 AM by SpiralHawk
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:12 AM
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3. The sad thing is that Jeb is absolutely right.
It would be like us hanging on Clinton's legacy.

And they'll hate and crucify him for it.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:15 AM
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7. He is, but...
WTF are they going to tout as far as Republican Party successes if they can't dig up Reagan's rotting corpse? (No offense to his son Ron, whom I adore.) They'd have to go back to the beginning, to Lincoln, and his ideology could not be further from that of the 'pubs of today.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 04:18 AM
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46. Even Lincoln left the Republican Party...
...and joined the National Union Party and Teddy Roosevelt left for the Bull Moose Party. The two greatest Republicans turned their backs on the nutjobs.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:47 PM
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40. He is absolutely right, even if you are a believer in their philosophy, It was 30 years ago
but they have had too much kool aid to listen.

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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:13 AM
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4. St. Reagan is all they have.
He's got some nerve. The Bushes are the worst thing to ever happen to this country. One of the reasons I will forever love 'Arrested Development' is because I can't think of JEB without thinking of GOB. Hahahaha!
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:55 PM
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27. And they had to make up so much crap about his legacy just so they have someone to uphold.
As stated in an earlier post, the only highly-rated Republican president of the past 150 years is Lincoln. And today's Republicans would sooner hang him than support him if he ran for office today, assuming he stood for the same principles that he had nearly 150 years ago.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:11 PM
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33. Teddy Roosevelt and Ike were good presidents.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:36 AM
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47. Yup and if both of them were alive today
Edited on Mon May-04-09 09:37 AM by workinclasszero
the freepers would drive them out of their ever shrinking right wing extremist party.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:14 AM
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5. They are quite bipolar over there
One day they have picture post of the former President and VP complete with wailing and gnashing of teeth that he's gone, and the next day it is no more Bush's.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:14 AM
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6. The truth is Reagan and Bush never really liked each other much.
Bush hated Reagan's voodoo economics and Reagan though Bush was kind of a snob.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:39 AM
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8. Jeb is smarter than any of us realized if this is how he's talking. Which could make him dangerous,
Edited on Sun May-03-09 09:40 AM by Berry Cool
except for one thing...the average Republican is so stupid, all this does is make Jeb a polarizing figure.

With that kind of moderate approach, Jeb could win some Dems over...and I think he knows it. Thing is, today's Repigs want nothing of moderation. They want 100% fealty to Republican "values" and "ideals"...and if that means praying to a statue of St. Ronnie thrice daily, so be it. If Jeb refuses to pray, they will gladly jettison him rather than give him a crack at the Oval Office.

That's good news for us in the sense that we'll never have to worry about another Bush showing up for that job. The bad news is that, damn, if we HAD to have another Bush, we would've been better off with Jeb than with Georgie. Too late now, though.

The purists' refusal to accept Jeb as someone with legitimate ideas will result in their once again putting up an ideologically pure candidate in 2012, who cannot win if Obama is successful even at only half of what he's trying to accomplish.

ed. fixed typo
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:55 AM
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9. No. We would NOT have been better off with jeb than georgie.
jebbie is a flat-out front-row-center, point-of-the-spear signatory of the PNAC. His brother was an idiot marionette who was wholly owned and operated by his PNAC puppetmasters. jebbie's one of the puppetmasters. That's the LAST thing we need.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:12 PM
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34. Jeb is not as bad as W. He sucks, but not as much.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:24 AM
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12. His last name is B-U-S-H and Georgie is his brother.
That alone makes him toxic to the Republican Party.

If they make him their nominee Obama will win 400+ EVs.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:13 PM
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49. Yea. Can't imaging Herbert Hoover's younger, smarter brother ever getting....
elected to anything.

No Bush will ever get elected anything over the next 30+ years.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:31 AM
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14. #9 is correct
Jeb is all the evil of lil' boots, but with far more intelligence. He would be a far greater threat to democratic ideals than his brother. Fortunately big brother has so damaged the Boosh name, that re-branding will be difficult outside of the 20%ers..
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:42 AM
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21. At first glance he does seem smarter than his older brother,
until I realize that a fishing lure is smarter than his older brother.

Both Jeb and Dubya had an easy go of it politically. There was never a time when money was an issue. They were born into extremely high privilege and the money was already well in place. Lawton Chiles defeated Jeb for Jeb's first try at governor in Florida but with Chiles out of the picture, the field was basically Jeb's from that point forward.

Dubya had it pretty easy from the git-go in Texas. The Texas Republican Party, from all available evidence, is not known for its critical thinking.

It's probably inevitable that Jeb was one of the headliner names for this GOP event. But on the basis of what he appears to have offered to those gathered, I'm not sure he has widespread support within the party. Behind the scenes, I'm guessing that a few of the more perceptive folks in that gathering are saying to themselves, "The longer we keep hopping in the sack with the fundie nutbags, the more regional and obsolete we become as a party, the more elections we'll lose, and the less clout we'll have."

There's a chance that Jeb, smarter than his brother but possessed of the same bad blood, will be seen as a might-have-been has-been rather than the white knight of rescue.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:59 PM
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32. None of them are really that intelligent...
One cannot be intelligent and evil. And the family is evil. It's all smoke and mirrors. They have never really made any money on their own. It's always been a matter of making money off everyone else's money.

The only one who's intelligent is Barbara. It did not rub off as they say. Although through the years they have rubbed off on her.

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:15 PM
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35. "One cannot be intelligent and evil"...
I honestly think there are plenty of evil geniuses in history... people that were able to do horrible things thanks to their smarts and abilities...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:48 PM
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41. I just don't know about Barbara being all that intelligent.
I sure wasn't much impressed with her callous remarks about the displaced population of New Orleans just after Katrina.


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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:04 AM
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10. ROLF. Weren't the Freepers fawning and drooling over Bush/Cheney
Edited on Sun May-03-09 10:06 AM by Phx_Dem
photos yesterday while reminscing about what wonderful leaders they were? It's so like the wingnuts to love the idiot brother Bush (W) and hating the smart one. No wonder their party has shrunken down to almost nothing; their base of idiots are terrified of anyone who is smarter than them, which pretty much limits their choices to Palin and Joe the Plumber-types.

Jeb is just as much of a wingnut as his brother, but no one can say he's as stupid as W.





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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:12 AM
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11. Jeb has the right idea, but he is too "progressive" for the RWers
who love Palin, but think McCain is a Democrat.
Besides, I think W poisoned the well for future Bush presidential hopes. Even the GOPers seem to have had enough of them.

mark
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:27 AM
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17. They still are...Cheney in particular. n/t
Edited on Sun May-03-09 11:27 AM by vaberella
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:25 AM
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13. "In the name of God, go!"
Edited on Sun May-03-09 10:26 AM by Baby Snooks
Let all conservatives finally, once and for all , rid ourselves of these Bush serpents. If it was not for Ronald Reagan the whole cursed family would be nothing but blue blood losers. Time to echo the immortal words of Cromwell to little boy bush:

“You have sat for too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2243151/posts
_______________________________________________________________________

I suspect we have seen the last of the Bushes unless the Democrats want them. The Republicans apparently don't.



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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:36 AM
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15. do you think jeb resents his brother? i know this is OT, but... i can't help but wonder
if jeb bush feels that his brother ruined any chances for his becoming president... being a bush and all. I don't quite know what the republican party can do besides throw away every tenet of their beliefs in order to allow more people to join their party. right now the only people who CAN be a part of the party are white evangelical bible thumpers and creationists.....
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:05 AM
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16. channeling Bill the Kat - ACK!!! ACK!!! ACK!!!
I agree with freeptards?

:puke:

Make sure you save the freeptard rantings to a PDF ... for future reference when the freeptards are bowing down to Jeb, the Candidate ...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:33 AM
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18. Odd how the GOP went from the "Party of Lincoln"...
to, "The Party of Reagan", and now, the "Party of Non-Existance"...Keep up the good work, you'll be irrelevant in 2010...:D
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:34 AM
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19. My list of Republicans we should leave behind is several miles long.
Ronald Reagan.
Anyone named Bush.
Bill Frist.
John Boehner.
HannityLimbaughBeckOReillyCoulteretc
Bill Kristol.
Anyone named Dole.
Nixon.
Harding.
etc.

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:38 AM
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20. You forgot "Silent Cal" Coolidge...
Harding set the wheels going for the Depression, Silent Cal oiled them well and Hoover was stuck with the repercussions and blame. And the GOP never learned a thing from that.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:44 AM
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22. Agree. Good morning, rasputin. Yes. A lesson they never learned a long
time ago still haunts them.


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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:45 PM
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25. Coolidge, nor his economic advisers, understood the economics of the time.
All they knew is that they were prosperous and others weren't--and unfortunately, that didn't seem to bother them much.

Coolidge otherwise was a real cold-hearted fuckster. Anti-labor, extremely pro-big business, would have been anti-worker's rights if his own party hadn't put them in place twenty years before...he was a real prick.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:57 PM
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23. A BUSH saying that REAGANS should be left behind!
The Greeks called it arrogance unto the gods...

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rocktivity
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islandgirl808 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:37 PM
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24. dear god i hope that man never gets near the presidency
i shudder to think of what evil things he could do :scared:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:48 PM
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26. Hey Jeb, how's it feel knowing you'll never be president?
Your dim bulb brother ruined it for you.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:09 PM
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28. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall and hear what Jeb thinks about George.
Gawd, I'd pay a lot of money for that ability ... :rofl:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:13 PM
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29. Probably not much.
The name 'Bush' is mud in this country now.
Which is for the best. If Dubya did anything right, it's making sure that this country will never elect another Bush to the White House.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:28 PM
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30. I'd love to be a fly on the wall and hear what Nancy thinks about Jeb...
No doubt she's on the phone with Cindy Adams and Liz Smith. She was on the phone in 2000. Liz Smith wouldn't run it. Cindy Adams did. And in some quarters George W Bush is forever known as The Village Idiot as a result. Nancy Reagan, and Cindy Adams, at least called that one right.

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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:33 PM
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37. He didn't get on well with the lege in Florida....
I doubt his home state would be as good of a launching pad for him as one might usually expect -- leaving aside the tainted Bush brand...
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:38 PM
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31. Oh no, Freepers, you get to keep the Bushes forever!!!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Haven't you been paying attention Freepers? Once the BFEE have their claws in you they never let go!

You asked for it, you got it!


:rofl:


It gets better every day!


:rofl:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:34 PM
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38. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee !
:rofl:
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:16 PM
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36. The Republicans still do not understand why they lost
and all they have to hold on to is a false impression of Reagan, which they can never get near to. The religious right and the corporations have them by the balls and they will not release them.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:54 PM
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43. They can only steal close races. That's why they lost. Keep you eye on Jeb. The bush crime family
is alive and well.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:44 PM
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39. Uh oh. Jeb just added the crosshairs to go with the target already on his back
for having the same last name as our hideous former president.

Talking bad about St. Ronald???!?
Whatchoo talking about, Jeb??
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:30 PM
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42. Unfortunately Reagan is the only well liked proponent of the current GOP ideology.
So unless they would like to run on Nixon or Mussolini they are kinda stuck.

But Jeb is absolutely right. The Reagan fetish isn't going to get them elected; they need another politician who can fill his place.
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:34 AM
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44. If they leave Reagan's behind, where are they going to put their lips?
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:43 PM
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52. That's crass...and downright hilarious. nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:24 AM
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45. what does Michael Reagan think about this ?
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:38 PM
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50. The Reagans and the Bushes always hated each other.
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:41 PM
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51. I agree with the freepers!
It doesn't happen often, but they are right on this point. No more Bushes!
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:17 PM
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53. In 3 1/2 years
They will be praising Jeb. Bush/Romney 2012.
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