Pat Buchannan: What is happening right now to white men is the same thing that happened to blacks!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

Why does Chris Matthews have Pat Buchanan on to discuss Affirmative Action?

[valerief]

1. It's all about "How the World Affect Republicans." Real people's needs don't matter. nt

[Puzzler]

2. Ah, Mr. Buchanan and co. always the victims!

.

[Ikonoklast]

3. To watch the spittle fly out of his fool mouth.

Those poor white guys.

Joan Walsh just slapped Tweety about the firefighters protecting those jobs for their relatives.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

5. Sweet Jesus, Tweety came off like a total asshole during that segment.

Firefighting is an Irish tradition so it's ok that they protect their jobs for the Irish!

[tishaLA]

11. and in what way, exactly, is firefighting like pro basketball?

and could tweety have used a more racist trope? by itself it proved Ms Walsh's point.

[Ikonoklast]

14. You have to take a Civil Service test to get into the NBA, I guess.

Never knew that. Learn something new every day.

:crazy:

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

35. Tweety is always making racially insensitive remarks! I can't stand that racist asshole! n/t

[eleny]

8. Joan did a good job - sensible and calm as she verbally slapped them silly

[biscotti]

4. I had to turn the channel

Buchanan is a bigot and a racist and he will never evolve. Just blatant ignorance. Wish MSNBC would can him!

[Butch350]

49. He's probably got some kind of contract.

[tishaLA]

6. This is a disgusting conversation

and who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to have, as Joan said, three Irish Catholics on there talking about race relations? Do you think Tweety would have used that obnoxious tone if the liberal would have been African American or Latino?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

9. And Tweety is trying to say that this disqualifies Sotemeyer from the SC.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. It pisses me off how Buchanan calls himself "Irish".

He might have distant Irish ancestry, but Buchanan is far from being the type of Irish-Catholic that Joan and Chris Matthews are.

Buchanan's Great Great Great grandparents (Krack, Atzert, Mattheis, Becker and Heil) were from Germany.

Buchanan isn't even the real family name, as it was changed from Bohannon in the 1700s and I think they were Scottish.

So he's mostly German & Scottish.

:eyes:

It pisses me off to hear him claim Irish ancestry. That's just rubbish.

[avaistheone1]

25. I'm impressed. How did you learn all this?

[Drunken Irishman]

38. I swear, I'm not a stalker.

Wikipedia had a link to a site with his ancestry.

:P

[depakid]

7. "Why does Chris Matthews have Pat Buchanan on"

Why does anyone have this know nothing blowhard on?

[flakey_foont]

18. must be under contract to MSNBC

they have to do something with him, I suppose

I think he would have more of a receptive audience for his rants over on the Faux Opinion Channel

[Mister Ed]

10. Yeah. I hate the way people are always lynching me just for bein' a white guy.

It gets mighty old, I tell ya.

extreme
:sarcasm:

[Arugula Latte]

31. You poor oppressed member of a disadvantaged minority, you.

*pats head* There, there ...

[pot luck]

12. Ugh.

That whole segment disgusted me. I'm really surprised by Chris Matthews; I never would have thought he would side with Pukechanan on this reverse racism crap.

:puke:

[mrs_p]

13. tweety was an ass in this segment

he came off as a know nothing bigot, and made me sick!

[babylonsister]

15. Buchanan talking about anything related to racism or affirmative

action is just too ironic for me.

[These Eyes]

17. My hair is on fire…

Neither Matthews nor Buchanan have a clue. Fire departments do protect those jobs for family and friends. My husband's a firefighter. His department has been sued because blacks were shut out of the hiring process. It wasn't that blacks couldn't pass the test, but that the answers to the test were given to White applicants by a friend or relative on the fire department, giving them higher scores. There's no way that you can tell me NO blacks could pass the test. Either something was wrong with the test or something was wrong with the scoring. I believe they know what the problem is, but they don't want to expose the state to law suits. Can you imagine how many other minorities were rejected? The only reason we know about this story is because a white guy lost out on a job.

[MadMaddie]

30. These eyes thanks for sharing the information

Welcome to DU!!:hi:

[EffieBlack]

34. Can you imagine what the reaction would be if a test was given and ONLY black people passed?

They would have IMMEDIATELY thrown out the test and started over again and Buchanan and Matthews wouldn't have uttered a peep - since, after all, everyone KNOWS that there would HAVE to be something WRONG with a test that NO WHITE PERSON COULD PASS!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

37. What infuriated me was his attempt to say that this was all for the good of minorities.

"Oh we don't want affirmative action because then minorities feel bad about themselves as though they only got there because of affirmative action. Or white people might make them feel bad about having got there only through affirmative action"

Please.

At least Pat wasn't trying to paint his racism as though it were for our benefit.

[EffieBlack]

42. That argument is such bullshit - I wish someone would shoot back by asking if either Pat or Chris

ever feels "stigmatized" by the fact that George W. Bush got where he is because he was a rich white boy.

The claim that blacks should feel marginalized because of affirmative action is such a crock and smacks of racism and entitlement. No one would EVER suggest with a straight face that some random white man would feel less deserving of his accomplishments because some other random white man might have gotten an advantage. Yet, they will throw that argument around about black people in a second

I call bullshit.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

51. It reminds me of Orval Faubus arguing that he sent National Guard troops to stop the desegregation

of Little Rock Central High "to protect black students".

[TuxedoKat]

50. That's very interesting

I thought everyone was taking the test the same way under the same conditions. Thanks for sharing and welcome to DU.

You should email that info to Tweety and Joan.

[polichick]

19. Pat whining about the horrible treatment of whites - and Tweety upset that...

...not every fireman is Irish anymore. JEEZ!

[Blue Meany]

20. That Buchanan slave has escaped from the plantation again

and is shooting off his big mouth. Let's make and example of him: 100 lashes, before we lynch him publicly.

[Cha]

21. buchannan is a racist pig

and I don't care what he has to say about anything.

Why is he even given a mic?

[JimGinPA]

22. Obviously Buchanan Has Had More Experience With (And Exposure To) People Of Color

That's why Tweety always has him there whenever he's discussing any sort of racial issue.

[Dappleganger]

23. Cal me when Uncle Pat gets pulled over for DWB. nt

[Phx_Dem]

24. OMG. White guys are getting lynched? Where?

Did someone get arrested for refusing to sit in the back of the bus?!! Holy shit, I can't believe this is really happening.

:crazy:

Pat, you're a fool and worse.

[vaberella]

28. Can't you see it?! It's a smorgasborg of skewered rich white men with power! n/t

[CBR]

26. It made me so upset I sent an e-mail and I have never sent one

to Hardball. I had to let it out. I could not believe Tweety let Pat just say that and then compare it to Jackie Robinson. Good grief. I have to stop watching these shows.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

36. It was unbelievable.

[vaberella]

27. Tweety does it so he can piss on Pat Buchanan and I think he's obligated at times

to meet a quota.

Honestly whenever PB is on Tweety eats him alive.

[pot luck]

40. Not this time.

Tweety was just as bad as Pat. This will be the last time I watch Hardball.

[vaberella]

44. ~sigh~ That bad, huh?! Man. n/t

[WeDidIt]

29. White Men are being grabbed in Europe, put on wooden ships in shackles

and dying by the hundreds on long trips to America?

Then being enslaved when they get here and their women are being raped?

Where the fuck have I been? I haven't heard about any of this!

[Fire1]

32. You late! lol!!

[EffieBlack]

33. Good question-and why would he have a debate on affirmative action with no one of color included

in the discussion?

[BlooInBloo]

39. Poor, poor downtrodden white folks.

[NatBurner]

48. they should march on washington

have a million men on the mall or something like that

[AspenRose]

52. Actually, they're planning to do just that

:scared:

http://washingtonindependent.com/39893/the-million-militia-man-march

Too chicken shit to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan, but no problems whatsoever arming themselves and storming Washington DC :dunce:

[JitterbugPerfume]

41. Pat needs to go someplace

far far from my TV and shut the fuck up

[NC_Nurse]

43. Really? Where are the lynchings happening? I must have missed that news.

He is such a relic. Christ.

[TankLV]

45. Five to Seven Hundred Million Dollar CEO Salaries?!

I must have missed that...

[Number23]

46. What is this about??

What did Pat say? To whom??

Damn, the only thing I hate more than Pat Buchanan is OP's like this!!

ETA: Never mind. Found it here - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5601165

[Butch350]

47. Doesn't Pat remind you of your cuddly grand dad...

[old mark]

53. Not really - my grandad was an Osage, and was not very "cuddly" -

the other grandad was a German soldier, and he was dead before I got here.

I am amazed that a man that low actually ran for President of the US.

mark

[ErinBerin84]

54. Whatever, Pat.

Didn't you say that African Americans should be GRATEFUL that they were brought over as slaves once?

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[Canuckistanian]

56. So now I have to be content with shoe-shining and skycap jobs?

Or maybe a sharecropper. I hear there's good wages pickin' beans.

:eyes: