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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:18 PM
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The Health Care Industry's PR Scam: Will Obama Fall for It?

The Health Care Industry's PR Scam: Will Obama Fall for It?
By James Ridgeway
Mother Jones
May 11, 2009


In a letter to Obama that was released over the weekend, executives from the Advanced Medical Technology Association (the medical device manufacturers lobbying group), the American Hospital Association, the American Medical Association, America’s Health Insurance Plans, and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, as well as the Service Employees International Union, pledged to “do our part” to reduce health care costs. Their vague, pie-in-the sky promise amounts to just a 1.5 percent reduction in the growth rate of health care spending. Such is the explosion in health care costs that even this miniscule reduction represents a potential $2 trillion saving over 10 years. But there’s no guarantee this figure will be achieved. As the Washington Post points out:

The groups did not spell out yesterday how they plan to reach such a target, and…they offer only a broad pledge, not an outright commitment….In addition, White House officials said, there is no mechanism to ensure that the groups live up to their offer, only the implicit threat of public embarrassment. Signers of the letter said that large amounts could be saved by aggressive efforts to prevent obesity, coordinate care, manage chronic illnesses and curtail unnecessary tests and procedures; by standardizing insurance claim forms; and by increasing the use of information technology, like electronic medical records.

So let’s get this straight: Saving all this money depends on getting Americans to eat less? Good luck with that one. And the other brilliant cost-saving measures involve getting doctors to create computer records of all the overpriced drugs they prescribe, and giving patients easier forms to fill out before they get turned down six times by their private insurance companies?

And what might the industry get in return for this generous “cooperation”? The Kaiser Daily Health Policy report today rounded up the possibilities:

The Journal reports that although the groups did not ask for anything in return for the pledge, many of the factions are looking to prevent regulations that could “pose new burdens” or affect their profitability. For example, the health insurance industry is seeking to offset any reductions to their payments by obtaining new rules that would require all U.S. residents to have health coverage, according to the Journal. The Journal reports that health insurers have made several concessions intended to prevent a public option — which they fear could affect their profitability — as part of reform legislation (Wall Street Journal, 5/11). According to the AP/Philadelphia Inquirer, drugmakers are hoping to avoid a requirement that new drugs pass a cost-benefit test before receiving regulatory approval. In addition, hospitals and physicians are looking to avoid a system in which the government would dictate their payments for all patients, not just those under Medicare or Medicaid (Alonso-Zaldivar, AP/Philadelphia Inquirer, 5/11).

In other words, the underlying purpose of this PR stunt is to slow or block any meaningful health care reforms, which could actually improve care while reducing the price tag by a lot more than 1.5 percent. These include regulating the cost of pharmaceuticals and medical devices, curtailing or eliminating the role of the insurance companies, or introducing single-payer, which allows other developed countries to deliver superior health care for 20 to 40 percent less--all of which make $2 trillion in weight-loss programs and paperwork reduction measures look pretty pitiful by comparison.

Please read the complete article at:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/05/health-care-industrys-pr-scam-will-obama-fall-it#
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:21 PM
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1. Obama will not fall for it.
However, he will have to compromise and meet them part way. There is no way our health care system will be changed in a short time. It will take many years for a total turn around.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:21 PM
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2. I agree. And a 1.5 percent reduction is a joke.
People could have their health care costs cut by 50% and they could STILL go broke and lose everything.

Haven't health care costs risen something like 10 or 12 percent just in the last YEAR?

This proposal is an insult and I hope Obama treats it as such.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:39 PM
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6. The 1.5 Percent Cut Is Misleading. What they charge for health care will go up over 6 trillion
dollars over the next ten years according to their figures!

Read their statement carefully.

They say that their "cost cutting" proposal will reduce the yearly 6.2% average price increase down to 4.7% annual price increases.

They ARE NOT proposing any cuts in their health care charges .... not a single penny. In fact, if you read their letter carefully, you will see that they propose over 6 trillion dollars in health care cost increases over the next ten years!

They claim that the 1.5% cut from 6.2% will "save" 200 billion dollars a year, or two trillion dollars over ten years from their projected price increases.

To put it another way, they intend to increase price by over 600 billion dollars a year or 6 trillion dollars over the ten year period. Their 2 trillion "cost cutting" proposal means they will "only" increase their prices by a little over 6 trillion dollars. Without their "cuts" costs would go up over 8 trillion dollars over ten years.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:26 PM
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3. I think he already has
because if he hadn't, he'd at least be pushing the public option as step toward single payer.

The only other option is that he hasn't "fallen" for it and is selling us out to the insurance companies intentionally.

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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:06 PM
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18. Oh Please. He hasn't fallen for anything. This thing has just started
Edited on Tue May-12-09 06:06 PM by Thrill
Why would he use all his ammo now?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:54 PM
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21. It hasn't just started - it's been coming on for months
(years really). He knew he was going to have to deal with it and he is completely shutting out the option most people want.

I hope he's making his DLC friends happy.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:35 PM
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4. I fight with insurance compaines all the time
That's my job--to file medical claims. Unless Congress makes it illegal for insurance companies to practice medicine, rest assured that nothing will change--except good MDs who are fed up with the insurance regs will quit practicing or will not take insurance at all.
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quidam56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:36 PM
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5. We need a cure for health care in America
Profit care comes ahead of Patient care. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:43 PM
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7. Of Course, Because We All Know What Stupid Sucker Obama Is!
:eyes:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:52 PM
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8. He's not stupid. Why are you attacking him?
Edited on Tue May-12-09 12:53 PM by Better Believe It

President Obama opposes Medicare for All (single payer) and may abandon the public insurance proposal but that hardly makes him ignorant or stupid as you suggest.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:53 PM
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9. Clown
n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:58 PM
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10. he already has.....
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 01:49 PM
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11. I believe he was PROMOTING it yesterday in his press conference.
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 01:51 PM
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12. ....purpose of this PR stunt is to slow or block any meaningful health care reforms, ..Yes,
it is a delaying stunt.


....In other words, the underlying purpose of this PR stunt is to slow or block any meaningful health care reforms, which could actually improve care while reducing the price tag by a lot more than 1.5 percent. These include regulating the cost of pharmaceuticals and medical devices, curtailing or eliminating the role of the insurance companies, or introducing single-payer, which allows other developed countries to deliver superior health care for 20 to 40 percent less--all of which make $2 trillion in weight-loss programs and paperwork reduction measures look pretty pitiful by comparison.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:51 PM
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13. The proposal does not reduce or cut current costs.

"In other words, the underlying purpose of this PR stunt is to slow or block any meaningful health care reforms, which could actually improve care while reducing the price tag by a lot more than 1.5 percent."

Their proposal doesn't reduce the price tag. It simply reduces the percentage yearly increase in costs from 6.2% to 4.7% which is still pretty high!
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 03:27 PM
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14. so its like a sale at the store-They first raise the price, the say
50% off. got it.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:00 PM
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16. Bingo! Just meaningless numbers they can throw out
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:07 PM
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19. Obama is just using them now, so he can sell the price of his healthcare bill
Which is the biggest issue of all. The price.
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TimesSquareCowboy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 03:39 PM
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15. This was just their opening number. There's a long way to go yet.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:04 PM
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17. Didn't Obama say he wanted them to show some action by next month?
Doesn't sound like he's falling for anything
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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:17 PM
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20. The health insurance industry is so rotten
Obama should just make them obsolete.

America will support him on this. The insurance execs are as lovable and trustworthy as Satan.
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Lorax7844 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:54 AM
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22. This is make or break for me
If you really care about reform call and demand single payer/public option. The Capital Hill Switchboard is 202 224 3121. Please call and give them a piece of you mind, it only takes 5 minutes and will make you feel so proactive and productive.

Also let them know that, you are on to their charade. Fuckers we will only raise the price for healthcare by 6 trillion dollars not 8. I love Obama but this is garbage.
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