What alternate universe did I wake up in this morning?

[Peacetrain]

listening to CNN.. not Fox.. and they were interviewing three citizens from Selma Alabama about economic issues, and health care.. 2 women (white) 1 man (black)..

All three up against it because the industries are leaving.. but all three against any federal help with health care.. don't want any federal messing around with their insurance.. get this, they will pay for their needs themselves


Okay, be happy whatever..

Then the talking head (forgot his name I am so upset) asked about how race relations are in area with economy etc.

And the two white women, started with "we have no race problems".. and MY HAND TO GOD, as a committed Christian..they said. that during the 60's Selma got a bad name about race relations from outside people coming from the north.

Here is the really sad thing, the guy agreed with them.

My husband and I who were teens during this era, both just looked at each other and almost cried. How many twenty and thirty somethings are going to be seeing this and starting hear the rewriting of history.

And the even sadder thing, the talking head did not challenge them one bit.

I am sick to my heart.

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. Part of me thinks we have to hit rock bottom to wake some people up -

and even then, many will remain in their coma of ignorance.

[Peacetrain]

2. NRaleigh.. it takes a lot to knock the joy out of my heart.. but right now..

I am as demoralized as I can remember..not just that three people were saying that, but that the media gave it a pass.

[NRaleighLiberal]

8. I am with you on the demoralized part. is almost worst than when idiot was in charge -

we expected crap then, but this....

My sanity - turning off the TV and getting out to the garden!

[Peacetrain]

9. That is where I am headed right this minute.. the garden

I need a break after that

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. There is far too much documented evidence to deny what really happened

This just proves we can't trust our media; it doesn't mean this lie will become the new reality.

[Peacetrain]

5. People deny the holocaust.. The media said nothing with the run up to Iraq.

Reality seems to be what the loudest voices say it is.. I know what you mean, but for the CNN person to just let that pass.. I just don't know

[truedelphi]

19. Look at who advertises on CNN, like at most TV channels

Every other ad is for some pharmaceutical. Do you think Big Pharma and Big Health Insureers are not related?

The Powers that be already know that the American public is not influenced by the pharma ads. But in posting them, they are paying the networks to keep their mouths shut.

Why, one of the biggest stories of the last decade is how screwed over our health system is.

M. Moore would not be worth 100 million bucks if his documentaries didn't explain needed truths.

But Moore is not bought out. Local TV and national TV are.

[Wednesdays]

22. "Reality seems to be what the loudest voices say it is..."

And naturally, the "loudest" voices are the ones with the most money behind them.

[firedupdem]

4. The media has no problem finding people like this and allowing

them to spew senseless statements with no challenge. I'm glad I missed it. My heart would be as sickened as yours. :puke:

[Peacetrain]

6. My TV is still in one piece, but honestly I almost threw my coffee cup at it

[AndyTiedye]

17. I Have a Nice New TV, I Avoid Watching TV "News" On It For That Reason

[AndyTiedye]

16. Those People are Most Likely ACTORS Who were HIRED to Play Those Roles

That whole piece was almost certainly bought and paid for by your friendly health insurance companies.
We will be seeing more and more of this every day.

[PatSeg]

7. They will pay for their needs themselves?

Evidently none of them have confronted a major illness recently. Nice to think you could handle it if it happens to you. Reality is quite another story.

AND Selma DID get a bad name about race relations, because race relations in Alabama were a national disgrace.

I wonder who hired these people to say this crap - the RNC perhaps.

[Vinca]

10. I saw that, too. It was like a news clip from bizarro universe.

There was a time that black man would have been strung up just for sitting with those women.

[Peacetrain]

11. Vinca, I literally pinched myself , thinking I must be dreaming this

It was that bizarre.. I am going to take the advice of NRaliegh and hit the garden

[mrcheerful]

12. What age group were they in? Believe it or not but age plays into this crap alot

as those who aren't old enough to remember the Jim Crow laws or didn't grow up in the time before civil rights have no clue about life back then. I remember back in my youth how there was a white side of town and a black side of town. I also remember a time when blacks didn't eat in the same restaurants as whites even though there were no Jim Crow laws in my state. I also remember the up roar in 1965 when the first black family moved into the area and went to the same school I went to. But to hear my SO, who was born in 1974, schools were integrated always, she had no ideal that blacks and whites had separate schools.

As far as the Reagan era talking points, well lets just say these folks are in for a rude awakening when they get sick and doc says they need treatment but their insurance company says no they don't. Just lately SO who is on medicaid, found out that her doc got read the riot act because he prescribed her a wheelchair because when grocery shopping her legs gave out and she started falling. The medicaid folks asked why the doc prescribed a chair to a 34 year old, WTF, theres an age limit on who gets a chair and who doesn't now?

[Peacetrain]

25. The three people being interviewed were easily mid 50's think

[tabasco]

13. More corporate propaganda

[FailureToCommunicate]

26. Great picture tabasco. CNN-FOX: Not much difference some days... Except one used

to be a better news network...

[lunatica]

14. the media makes up the news now...

And it takes a while for people to catch on. Especially when they don't know how to use computers and have to rely on 'the news' from tv. Here's an article from 2005 with data gathered from the Census. The demographics break down as we would imagine. The percentage and demographics of ignorant people pretty much matches the percentage demographic of people who don't own computer or who don't have internet connections.

http://www.clickz.com/3559991

Most Americans Have PCs and Web Access
By Rebecca Lieb, ClickZ, Oct 28, 2005


Sixty-two million U.S. households, or 55 percent of American homes, had a Web-connected computer in 2003, according to just-released U.S. Census data. That's up from 50 percent in 2001, and more than triple 1997's 18 percent figure.

Home Web use continues to skew toward more affluent, younger and educated demographics. Both computer ownership and Web use are lower in households comprised of seniors, among blacks and Hispanics and among households comprised of people with less than a high school education.

Conversely, nearly all households earning over $100,000 -- 95 percent -- own at least one computer, and 92 percent are online. In homes earning under $40,000, the online figure plummets to 41 percent.

Children have benefited enormously from the growth of home computing. In 1993, only 32 percent of children had access to a computer at home. In 2003, 76 percent of school aged children had access to a home computer, and 83 percent of America's 57 million schoolchildren used a PC at school. Again, these figures skew when ethnic and economic criteria are applied.

In 1997, only 7 percent of adults said they used the Web to get news, weather and spots. That figure spiked to 40 percent in 2003. Those seeking government or health information grew to 33 percent from 12 percent in 1997, and over half (55 percent) used the Web for email and instant messaging, up from 12 percent 10 years earlier. Eighteen percent banked online; 12 percent looked for a job; nearly half sought product and/or service information and 32 percent purchased online, a radical jump over 2.1 percent in 1993.

Of the 45 percent of households without Web access in 2003, the most common reasons given were: "don't need it/not interested (39 percent); and costs too much" or "no computer/computer inadequate" (each 23 percent). Two percent cited Web access elsewhere. Issues of privacy, child safety and security concerns were rarely cited, each accounting for only one percent of the reasons.

Homes in the West are the most wired at 67 percent, closely followed by the Northeast and Midwest. Southern households had the lowest percentage of online computers at 52 percent.

This is the entire article...

[Bluenorthwest]

15. Alambama will take care of itself?

Then why are we giving them $1.63 for every dollar they pay in taxes? The rest of us support them as it is, those financially independent folks!

[rucky]

18. So the auditions were in Selma this week.

Where's our man on the street from Central Casting going to visit next Sunday?

[eppur_se_muova]

20. FOX, the Potemkin network. nt

[Wednesdays]

21. K&R

:kick:

[Number23]

23. Didn't you know? Lots of people deny racism within their midst

by saying that the black people calling them out on it "simply MISUNDERSTOOD." That other people HOODWINKED and FOOLED us into believing that their pristine overtures of friendship and camaraderie were really racist slurs and attitudes.

And they are absolutely gobsmacked, shocked and floored that no one falls for it either...

[gauguin57]

24. Here's a musical gift for you, Peacetrain, to ease your heartsickness a little bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G52Z84vF4fk

[progressoid]

27. Sadly the talking head probably doesn't have the chops to make an informed reponse.

[Peacetrain]

28. You know, that is what I thought.. and with investigative reporting

going the way of the dinosaur.. aka newspapers.. if we ever had another watergate.. who would have the ability to do it.

Losing the media, is really a loss of our democracy. And since 2002, we really have lost them to a mega media moguls..

But that is probably another thread