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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:43 PM
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Poll question: What percentage of the vote will Kucinich get in Iowa?
A simple enough question...
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:58 PM
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1. Alright
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 05:59 PM by Nederland
Who voted for over 20%? Fess up...
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 07:07 PM
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3. Alright...
the people who have not given up on progress.

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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 11:39 PM
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8. people who like to....
...piss you off!
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mikewriter Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:24 AM
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17. About 10%
But his stock went up for me about the debate tonight. i have a lot to think about concerning DK and my support of Dean. I wished DK was more nationally known and supported. I hope he does well In Iowa.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 07:06 PM
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2. kick for more data
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 07:08 PM
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4. what he said
:kick:
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:33 PM
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19. yes
kick
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:37 PM
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20. 5 days later, a kick?
Oooooooooo-k... :eyes:
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:08 PM
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25. why not
only 66 votes so far
a lot more votes out there
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iowapeacechief Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:37 PM
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5. Why so few votes in this poll?
Surely more DU members are willing to guess!
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ClarkGraham2004 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 11:39 PM
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9. Kucinich isn't a huge draw.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:38 PM
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6. I think he will do surprisingly well
probably 8%.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:41 PM
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7. The audience responded well to DK tonight........

I hope it's a sign of things to come........
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 11:46 PM
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10. I think it is
I've been hearing overwhelmingly positive reports from MNers who've been down to Iowa. They're reporting that there's a fair amount of Dean and Geph support, but that there's still a lot of undecideds (around 25%!). We're gaining new supporters each day down there. Rumour has it that Iowa City is awash in DK lawn signs-- another great sign of what will happen.

IMHO, if DK finished with over 5% of the vote, he'll beat the conventional wisdom and shatter the whoremedia's expectations. THEN they'll start to treat him as a "serious candidate" who's bringing up the issues the others are afraid to touch.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:06 AM
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14. DK is a serious candidate............
but is not being portrayed as one by the corporate media.....
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iowapeacechief Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:57 PM
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23. Even five percent...
...would be a Big Surprise given how Dennis is generally dismissed as a much loved non-starter.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 11:48 PM
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11. OK but don't you have to have 15% to have anything ?
I don't live there so the particulars are of little interest to me.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 11:59 PM
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12. statewide results
Can have candidates registering under 15% on caucus night.
The 15% viability is per precinct.
There is a similar 15% viability at the state convention level, so without 15% candidate will have no delegates going to Boston. But a candidate can nonetheless finish with under 15% statewide (based on representation at precincts where they had 15% viability).

Its late and I'm not explaining it tvery well but hopefully that is clear and correct. Or else someone can help?
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:09 AM
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15. I forgot about that. I think he'll carry some space at some of the
college and city precincts.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:04 AM
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13. I thought he did pretty well tonight
he could pull out a nice suprise in Iowa. I'd guess somewhere in the 10% or even a little better?
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iowapeacechief Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:23 AM
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16. 10 percent would be awesome...
...but expectations are so low, I think a lot less will count as a Big Surprise.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:27 AM
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18. During the debate tonight..........

a poll was shown about Iowa voters stating that the majority of those polled wanted the democratic nominee to be against the war.......maybe DK will do well in Iowa afterall.......
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:41 PM
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21. Anything less than 15% is an impossibility
Because of caucus rules. Candidates either get 15% or their supporters move to another candidate or undecided.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:48 PM
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22. Yes, it IS possible
The 15% rule applies PER PRECINCT, not to the state as a whole. So, it's quite conceivable that we'll have a number of candidates who have under 15%.

For example, in one precinct, Kucinich has 6/10 votes. That's 60%. However, in a neighboring precinct, he only gets 1/10 votes. That's only 10%, and not viable for a subcaucus.

There has always been a de-facto "15% rule" of some sort in place in precinct caucuses for years. For example, suppose your precinct gets to elect 8 delegates to go on to the County Convention. That would mean that you must have the support of at least 12.5% of your precinct's caucus attendees to get a delegate. If you do not, your subcaucus is "not viable" and its members must join other subcaucuses.

The only difference this year is that the "15% rule" is codified by the party-- but it's always been in play for delegate selection.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:06 PM
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24. indeed
Which explains how Alan Keyes got 14% in 2000, or how Bill Clinton got 2.8% in 1992. For good list of past results, see

http://desmoinesregister.com/extras/politics/caucus2004/pastresults.html
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