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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:00 AM
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"Politically she's like a beautiful doll containing a canister of poison gas: Break her and you die"
Republicans Tread Lightly

Peggy Noonan on the nomination of Sonia Sotomayor to be on the Supreme Court:

"She is of course a brilliant political pick -- Hispanic when Republicans have trouble with Hispanics, a woman when they've had trouble with women. Her background (public housing, Newyorican, Catholic school, Princeton, prominence) is as moving as Clarence Thomas's, and that is moving indeed. Politically she's like a beautiful doll containing a canister of poison gas: Break her and you die."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/05/29/republicans_tread_lightly.html
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:01 AM
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1. Time for a game of pinata boys!
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Christian30 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:02 AM
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2. To give Noonan credit...
Even though she's a right-wing tool, she's a smart right-wing tool. If she were running the Republican party, we might have something to worry about. Luckily, Limbaugh and Steele are pushing it toward the trash heap of history.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:07 PM
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39. Actually, I think the woman's delusional- it's just that she's a bit less so than some
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:04 AM
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3. Charming Analogy, Peg!

Those WMD-style metaphors really warm the soul. Maybe she should pepper some of those into her next few commissioned speeches?

Clarence Thomas' story is/was moving? If we're talking about a bowel movement, I couldn't agree more.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:06 AM
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5. She missed the chance to compare her to a ticking time bomb
which seems to be a favorite of the GOP in recent months.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:05 AM
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4. she is right. obama made a very good pick and one that puts republicans in a very awkward position.
nice one Barack!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:07 AM
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6. It's a smart political move
I hope she turns out to be a good liberal pick who is on the bench for 30+ years.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:08 AM
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7. yeah, i do too
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:14 AM
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8. N u y o r i c a n
i have too many memories of this noonan
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 11:52 AM
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19. nothing offensive there!
:puke:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:54 PM
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27. She is OUT OF TOUCH!! Newyorican....hahaha---Rosie Perez would set her straight.
With a quickness. :rofl:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:56 PM
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30. self-delete.
Edited on Fri May-29-09 02:13 PM by vaberella
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:15 AM
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9. comparing Sotomayer to Thomas is a insult !
Edited on Fri May-29-09 08:17 AM by democracy1st
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:27 AM
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12. or an admission
that he was a token.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:47 AM
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17. with Thomas even black folks were saying we want a white liberal judge
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:16 AM
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10. This must be one of those things in life that remain mysterious
I'll take overwrought metaphors for $800, Alex.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:22 AM
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11. And After That . . .

. . . unnecessarily morbid metaphors for $1,000.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:33 AM
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14. Overwrought metaphors are her stock in trade.
republicans have trouble with subtlety.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:27 AM
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13. She's smart enough to use the stoopid.
Edited on Fri May-29-09 08:29 AM by Orsino
She's pimping the meme that Sotomayor was only nominated for her race and sex. When the Republicans fail to stop this appointment, her excuse will be that they were unfairly prevented from opposing her by her race and sex. Win-win.

Almost no one is actually that stupid, but Noonan has always been paid handsomely to lie, and can't possibly have any remaining scruples.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:14 PM
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41. She can "excuse" all she wants
but it's the reality base who has a win win here..imo.

"When the Republicans fail to stop this appointment, her excuse will be that they were unfairly prevented from opposing her by her race and sex. Win-win."
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 09:12 AM
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15. Soto's confirmation will be a walk in the park. Not to worry. nt
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:42 AM
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16. Good grief, she must have laid awake all night composing that line. Lame Peggy comes through again.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 11:19 AM
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18. I can tell why Noonan was a speechwriter for St. Ronnie.
That's an interesting analogy.

And let's not forget that Peggy Noonan doesn't like Sarah Palin either.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:01 PM
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20. What the hell is
Newyorican? Fortunately for the Democrats, the pukes simply cannot help themselves from being assholes. Ms. Sotomayor WILL be our next justice. By the time they're finished trashing her (and by extension, Hispanics and women), they will have no ammunition that will leave a mark on the next pick where is where I suspect Pres Obama is going to go more to the left.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:30 PM
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21. New York Puerto Rican?
I am not sure since I never heard the term myself, but when I lived in New York, there was a considerable population of Puerto Ricans there, which I found interesting since I was from Texas and only knew Mexican culture (the watered-down Texas version).
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:33 PM
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22. I've lived in NY my whole life
and have never heard that term.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:48 PM
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23. Probably a Noonanism
Right-wingers making up new words based on ethnic background. Not a surprise.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:53 PM
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25. It is not. It is a term MANY New York Puerto Ricans call themselves
who were born here around the 60s/70s. Rosie Perez is a known Nuyorican and is not shy about calling herself such.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:55 PM
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28. I see...so it is an old term
I only lived in NYC for 6 months. Passing through.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:03 PM
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32. self-delete.
Edited on Fri May-29-09 02:05 PM by vaberella
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:04 PM
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33. Is it more common than "Boricua"?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:11 PM
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34. Boricua is "now" term. Nuyorican is an old term.
Edited on Fri May-29-09 02:20 PM by vaberella
You'll find kids today identify themselves as Boricuan---considering I have close friends who do and a book on that as well. I think Boricua was when they were taking back their heritage during the late 80s-90s.

I believe the original name given by Natives of Puerto Rico before US invasion (or was it Spanish)--I think it was US--- was Boricua and it's the way they were redefining themselves to take back their heritage.

Plus there's the Uni called Boricua College (I believe it's one of the schools part of the Columbia system) a few blocks from my house. Nuyorican is normally used for Puerto Ricans born in NYC during the late 50s/60s/70s and I think 80s--since the 60s kids would be adults by the 80s. By late 80s and later it's changed.

Blacks have done this too. It's like the evolution of Negro to African-American while there are some who identify themselves as Black.

Edit: It depends on the generation.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:38 PM
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35. Thanks for the info.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:10 PM
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36. De nada. n/t
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 07:07 PM
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38. Brings me back
I was friendly with several of the early artists around the Nuyorican Poets Cafe in the early 70s. It was a wonderful arts movement of poets, actors, playwrights, musicians, just wonderful. When I left in the mid-90s it was still going strong there in the East Village.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:21 PM
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43. It still exists if I remember clearly and I think Rosie Perez may own it. n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:51 PM
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24. What? There's no way? Are you serious? Meh...I'm from uptown NYC --around Spanish Harlem.
Edited on Fri May-29-09 01:53 PM by vaberella
There's no way you don't know the term and it's Nuyorican.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:56 PM
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29. Dead serious
New Yorker my whole life - been working in Manhattan for the last 20 years and never heard that word before today.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:01 PM
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31. Wow...I'm really shocked. I never thought about that. What part of Manhattan?
Ever been uptown hung out with Hispanics? You have heard of Spanish Harlem right?

Well a great book/ethnography on life in Spanish Harlem and touching on Nuyorican's is In Search of Respect: Selling Crack in El Barrio by Philippe Bourgois

Here's a link with a bit of the book: http://books.google.com/books?id=XTC1ny-utfgC&dq=Selling+Crack+in+El+barrio&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=OjAgSraLC4PoNKuP3a8J&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4#PPR13,M1

Well the name is common and it's used. I know people who still consider themselves Nuyoricans although they've passed that generational time period. Rosie Perez is a well known self-proclaimed Nuyorican and she's talked about it in interviews. The struggle, the life, the adapting and the historical relationship between New York and Puerto Rican immigration during the 50s/60s/ and 70s.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:56 PM
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37. Nuyorican: i have never been to NYC and heard the term first in Chicago clubs
Edited on Fri May-29-09 06:57 PM by mix
Nuyorican Soul...I am the black gold of the sun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWSFllXLd4k

the more i learn of Sotomayor the more i like, great pick
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:54 PM
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26. banana fanna fo fanna
huntington beachian. It's a new name game. How about you?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:09 PM
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40. What was so "Moving" about the clarence
thomas,Anita Hill coke can thing?

'Cause that's all I ever remember about those confirmation days.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:20 PM
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42. I hate the comparisons to Thomas
The man was not in the least qualified for the position. Forget all the character flaws, forget his horrid positions and shocking behavior. Before you even GOT there, the man did not have the resume for the job.

Sotomayor has it, and several times over.
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