Ted Rall is a pathetic knob

[SoxFan]

That is all.

[rvablue]

1. Kick! Yes, an irrelevant, "I'll say anything for attention" pathetic knob. n/t

[Bucky]

2. By name calling, you have solved this problem

:applause icon with slightly sarcastic rolling of the eyes: Well done.

[cliffordu]

15. OK, get him in the same room with me and I'll gladly

kick him in the junk.

Action!!!!

[geek tragedy]

18. Put him in a room with Pat Tillman's family and Marianne Pearl.

I can't believe there are this many sociopaths at DU.

[cliffordu]

19. Sociopath???

Coming from you, I'll take it.

[geek tragedy]

20. Dude, I agree with you that Rall is a piece of shit.

I'm talking about the people who lap up his hate.

[cliffordu]

24. Sorry my friend - - I can be a sociopathic IDIOT sometimes......

I just ended a two week bicycle ride down 101 in Washington......

Too much oxygen in my brain to sort out what folks mean....sheesh....

(I owe you over this. You can kick ME in the junk if you want to.....)

[BeFree]

3. Maybe he is afraid

...and he wrote out his worst fears. Now who hasn't seen worse than that expressed?

[Cha]

26. No excuses..doesn't

fly.

[tomreedtoon]

4. Ted Rall STILL can't draw a caricature of Bush!

That is the only thing I hate about Rall. Otherwise, he's no worse than the average editorial cartoonist. But his inability to draw Bush and make it LOOK like Bush has pissed me off for eight years.

When the HELL did Bush ever look like this?


When did he ever wear a uniform (usually shown as red in color)? When did he wear a hat? Would you even freaking KNOW it was Bush if the name wasn't on the uniform - and that didn't usually appear in his teeny, tiny renditions?

GAAAA! TED RALL, LEARN HOW TO FREAKING DRAW! GAAAA!

Okay, I'm calmer now. Thanks.

[AlexanderProgressive]

5. Ted Rall is one of my favorite cartoonists of all time

Isn't that the Village Voice cartoonist? What did he do?

[dionysus]

7. called obama a monster and called for his resignation

[NYC_SKP]

42. Not much worse than the BS rants about "Preventive Detention" I've seen here.

I read "prolonged detention" to mean "we've been handed a very complicated set of circumstances and I just don't have all the answers yet".

Editorials and articles changed the president's words to "preventive detention" and people here ran with it.

bullshit.

[struggle4progress]

8. Here's the column:

http://www.sj-r.com/opinions/x124603932/Ted-Rall-It-s-increasingly-evident-that-Obama-should-resign

[AlexanderProgressive]

23. Wow. Rall exaggerates

I knew him as a very reasonable man. His column disappointed me.

[Cha]

29. Thank

you.

[Orsino]

31. *Clinton* looks like a paragon next to Obama?

Fail. :spray:

Rall's got a short memory.

[struggle4progress]

33. I've laughed out loud at Rall's cartoons for many many years: he really speaks to

my deep cynicism about the world. I think the column exhibits the depth of Rall's own cynicism. Even when volunteering for the Obama campaign, I expected to be dissatisfied with the centrism of his Presidency, and I did not expect that electing Obama would reduce the need for committed activist work for change. Rall, however, seems to react as if he expected all our political cares and troubles to vanish and is sudenly bitter to find that the problems still confront us

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

44. The guy needs to get a grip. Perhaps Rall forgot to take his Xanax.

[QC]

6. He is an enemy of the people. n/t

[geek tragedy]

21. No, just Ann Coulter without blonde hair. n/t

[CreekDog]

9. Ted Rall is useless, he's a monster, he's timid and owned, he's got something rotten inside him

no wait! those are things Ted Rall said about Obama in today's column. :eyes:

[Name removed]

10. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[CakeGrrl]

11. If Rall's column was an OP on DU, how many recs would it get?

Just wondering.

[geek tragedy]

17. It got locked.

The OP and the Recommenders should have been banned.

[Gman2]

12. Ted Rall is a rhetorical Mark Chapman

He was disillusioned. I think that Obama always telegraphs his punches. Then, when his own side is outraged, he capitulates, therby retaining almost ALL of his political capital. It is our job to Ted Rall Obama. Then he does what he wanted to do all along. He is a student of history. He sawthe resistance that FDR encountered. He has a lot of work ahead. To lose his mojo would be horrific. We must stalwartly Ted Rall, respectfully of course. Obama's got this, like all the other times. Might take a week or longer. CHILL!

[geek tragedy]

16. Rall is a hate merchant. Always has been, always will be.

He thinks making fun of women whose husbands died at the WTC is funny.

He made fun of Marianne Pearl.

[MadHound]

13. LOL! What's pathetic is that when Rall went after Bush, he was a god around here

Now that he dares to criticize Obama, whoops, under the bus he goes. Can't ever, never have somebody criticize Obama:eyes:

[Name removed]

14. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[firedupdem]

22. I don't know if monster, rotten inside and out, useless, needs

to resign immediately.....is criticism. I would call that hate, and I would hope DU'ers would disagree with the writer.

[Cha]

28. What's pathetic.. is you don't

know the fucking difference.

[Bucky]

37. Actually, I went and searched through some old Rall threads from back then

Even in the 2003-04 haydays of Bush bashing, Rall got quite a few DUers pointing out his logical flaws and sloppy thinking.

[ClarkUSA]

40. What's really pathetic is your terminal case of sour grapes.

[dionysus]

41. "criticize" ?!?!? understatement of the year award...

:eyes:

[Cha]

25. Thank you for doing this OP, SoxFan!

I came home on a lunch break and saw that thread where he was spewing his bile and I was so upset because it wasn't locked by the time I had to go back. All I could think of at work..I even told my young co-worker about it.

Like the mod wrote.."Flamebait that echoes the tone of our opponents."

[hughee99]

27. Ted Rall is a self-serving douchebag of the highest order. n/t

[Bucky]

30. Hey, remember back when Ted Rall was a hero? (DU link from 2003)

(on edit: the subject line used to read "everybody's hero", but on examination of three Rall threads, it seems that there've alwasy be a lot of DUers saying, "This Rall guy may be on our side, but he doesn't think very clearly." Score one point for Democrats' tendency to put critical thinking ahead of tribal loyalty)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=25320#25417

Ted Rall: Time for Democrats to Rally Around Dean

<snip for a few choice quotes>

Barring some unforeseeable misstep, Gov. Howard Dean will be the Democratic nominee. Patrick Buchanan thinks so.

      and

What if the other Democratic candidates came together at a joint press conference to announce that they were dropping out of the race to endorse Dean?

      and

If nothing else, cash-starved states would love it--the average primary costs taxpayers $7 million. More to the point, it would save Dean roughly $75 million--enough to close the money gap with Bush.

      and

Canceling the primaries would convey that Democrats are no longer a clumsy amalgamation of special interests. We're organized, it would say.

{link to article}

As I wrote then...

I have to wonder if he {Rall} really understands how the primary election process, or even the basic human nature of political a candidate, works. He likes Dean--that's great. But his solution to the challenges before Dean is for everyone competing with him to just shut up, keep their concerns about Dean to themselves, and get the hell out of the way. That's a pretty undemocratic request, which the article seems to be making seriously.

Of course very few states, if any, are able to just call off their presidential primaries. Hodling these elections are a matter of law. Most states don't have exclusively presidential primaries anyway. There are all sorts of nomination elections being held in March and April, of which the selection for presidential delegates is only a small part. Cancelling the primaries would save virtually no money at all.

Not only that, but in fact the primaries and caucuses are how the Democrats decide who their delegates are. Is Rall suggesting that these states don't even need to bother sending delegates to the 2004 Convention in Boston? Hell, think of all the money we could save if we just called off the dang convention and just agreed, somehow, to let Dean be the nominee without all that expensive rigamaroll of convention halls and hotel rooms and exhorbitant helium balloon drops?

OK, Rall's a Democrat. But is he a democrat (with a small d)? Yes, to hell with these stupid election things. Let's all march like we're organized and unified. None of this Madisonian hogwash about "amalgamation" and "diversity".

I agree with Rall when he says that we need to unite against Bush to advance the cause of democracy. I find it quite silly when he suggests that we must destroy democracy in order to save it.

[Cha]

32. Makes him even more of a fucking

douchebag now..wtf happened to him?

[geek tragedy]

34. He cruelly mocked 9/11 widows/

He's always been a hatemonger.

[Bucky]

36. The company he keeps...

Rall, Limbaugh, and Beck.

[ClarkUSA]

39. No doubt they all agree w/Rall that Pres. Obama is "rotten inside"/"a monster" who "should resign".

Politics make strange bedfellows, as they say. In this case, they're all revoltingly insane.

[Canuckistanian]

35. He's "controversial"

He's a controversial pathetic knob.

[Bryan]

38. He's as bad a pundit as he is a cartoonist

Not even halfway into the first year of Obama's first term, and Rall is calling for his resignation. Wow. If he keeps it up at this pitch, Christmas will find him calling for Obama to be shot into the sun...

[Jim Lane]

43. Some perspective, please -- consider Rall's work as a whole

I disagree with much (though not all) of what he says in this particular column. As for his cartoons, some I don't get, some I disagree with, and some elicit no reaction from me at all (when he's just stating what I think is obvious).

BUT -- many of his cartoons are nothing short of brilliant.

During the eight-year horror, Rall frequently cut through the MSM's whitewashing and told the truth about Bushco. Many, many times he made me feel better because I knew that at least someone got it.

I don't agree with Rall all the time. I also don't agree with Obama all the time. Specific disputes don't obscure the overall picture, though. If there's a poll about job performance, put me down as "Approve" for both those guys.

[SoxFan]

45. Attacking 9-11 widows, for example

Yeah, he's a real national treasure.