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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 12:06 AM Original message |
The next time a right winger uses Brown v. Board as proof that empathy has no place in the law |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R. From a heartless judicial standpoint, Plessy v Ferguson was justifiable. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. The right usually argues that Brown was all about empathy |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. You're right |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Not all whites |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wingnut anger about Brown v Board launched the movement against "Activist Judges" |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
4. Very true. It's a strange opinion in some ways. Everyone should read it. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Actually it uses science to make its case |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Actually, no science is not used in appellate courts |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That's not quite true |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I don't see where you disagreed with me |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. My point is that your claim that Brown was oddly decided is not true |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Do you base this view on having read thousands of appellate opinions? |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Yes, I do - I am a legal scholar who has studied, taught and practiced this and I am very familiar |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Just did a quick check of one well known source |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Thank you for that, but i am already very familiar with the background of Brown |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I'm only insistent because I believe in being fact based |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Oh please, of course science is used |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. What law school did you go to? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Sandnsea said nothing about appellate courts determining issues of fact |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I'm being hostile/dismissive? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You keep throwing out a strawman - no one here argued that the appellate courts determine issues of |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Huh? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. But they consider the accuracy of the science |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. To separate them . . . may affect their hearts & minds in a way unlikely ever to be undone" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I just wrote on that |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-30-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
24. Excellent point Empowerer. |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Thanks! |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
29. AND...who's to say it wouldn't have happened sooner, if there had been minorities in the S.Ct.? |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-31-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. It would have happened sooner if there had been a black justice before then . . . |
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