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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:52 PM
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Internal Memo Confirms Big Giveaways In White House Deal With Big Pharma
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/13/internal-memo-confirms-bi_n_258285.html

A memo obtained by the Huffington Post confirms that the White House and the pharmaceutical lobby secretly agreed to precisely the sort of wide-ranging deal that both parties have been denying over the past week.

The memo, which according to a knowledgeable health care lobbyist was prepared by a person directly involved in the negotiations, lists exactly what the White House gave up, and what it got in return.

It says the White House agreed to oppose any congressional efforts to use the government's leverage to bargain for lower drug prices or import drugs from Canada -- and also agreed not to pursue Medicare rebates or shift some drugs from Medicare Part B to Medicare Part D, which would cost Big Pharma billions in reduced reimbursements.

In exchange, the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers Association (PhRMA) agreed to cut $80 billion in projected costs to taxpayers and senior citizens over ten years. Or, as the memo says: "Commitment of up to $80 billion, but not more than $80 billion."


Article has more... for what it's worth.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:57 PM
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1. Why didn't they put a scanned copy on Huff Post? It wasn't on ther ealier. Is it on it now?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:57 PM
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2. Welcome to the sausage factory floor n/t
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Becky72 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:06 PM
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3. The WH agreed not to import drugs from Canada
Wow. And to think that we were promised that these negotiations were going to be televised by C-SPAN.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:10 PM
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4. Article says "The deal, as outlined in the memo:"
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 04:12 PM by jody
Commitment of up to $80 billion, but not more than $80 billion.

1. Agree to increase of Medicaid rebate from 15.1 - 23.1% ($34 billion)

2. Agree to get FOBs done (but no agreement on details -- express disagreement on data exclusivity which both sides say does not affect the score of the legislation.) ($9 billion)

3. Sell drugs to patients in the donut hole at 50% discount ($25 billion)
This totals $68 billion

4. Companies will be assessed a tax or fee that will score at $12 billion. There was no agreement as to how or on what this tax/fee will be based.

Total: $80 billion

In exchange for these items, the White House agreed to:

1. Oppose importation

2. Oppose rebates in Medicare Part D

3. Oppose repeal of non-interference

4. Oppose opening Medicare Part B
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:14 PM
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5. So is there a reason why I should believe an anonymous lobbyist over the White House?
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 04:17 PM by high density
Representatives from both the White House and PhRMA, shown the outline, adamantly denied that it reflected reality. PhRMA senior vice president Ken Johnson said that the outline "is simply not accurate." "This memo isn't accurate and does not reflect the agreement with the drug companies," said White House spokesman Reid Cherlin.


Edited to add:
The health care lobbyist said that what deal still exists is uncertain, as a result of House pressure.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:21 PM
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6. President Obama has not denied any of the back door deals made.

Why do you think that is?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:25 PM
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7. Well his spokesman did.
I suspect everything is still too fluid to say what has been agreed to.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:37 PM
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17. TPM reports White House ultimately said PhRMA never received a 'guarantee.'
Much more, here. In essence, the administration agreed to stand with PhRMA in opposing a series of measures that would have eaten into drug manufacturers' profits in exchange for PhRMA agreeing to a separate series of provisions which would have freed up $80 billion in funds for the government to put toward a health care overhaul. PhRMA head Billy Tauzin came forward last week, alleging that the White House had committed to the $80 billion concessions as a ceiling. The revelation that sent tempers flaring among congressional health care leaders, who were closed out of negotiations and, therefore, weren't privy to the details of the agreement. The White House ultimately said PhRMA never received a guarantee, putting administration officials in the uncomfortable position of publicly disavowing Tauzin's claims while hoping to retain his support at the same time.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/what-did-the-white-house-promise-phrma.php?ref=fpa
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:27 PM
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9. Which White House version of this story do you believe?
You know when someone is lying when they keep changing their version of events.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:34 PM
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15. Umm, even the lobbyist agrees that he doesn't know WTF he's talking about
What a load of BS.
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Becky72 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:38 PM
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18. Did he really say he doesn't know what he's talking about?
Explain please. Can we have an excerpt?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:56 PM
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19. The excerpt is in my post #5. Here it is again:
"The health care lobbyist said that what deal still exists is uncertain, as a result of House pressure."
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:26 PM
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8. But that should not prevent the congress from adding it anyway.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:29 PM
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10. Here we go again:

Anonymous Lobbyist: I swear this **was** the deal the WH made with Pharma

WH: No, it's not.

PhRMA: No, it absolutely is not.

HuffPo is HuffFaux on this one.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:29 PM
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11. Big Pharma paid $80 billion for WH opposing importation, Medicare rebates, non-interference repeal,
opening Medicare Part B.

What is the Return on Investment for the $80 billion?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:30 PM
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12. ***FROM THE WORDS OF A LOBBYIST***
You can believe it if you want, I need to hear Obama's words on the issue and if the deal sucks I'll count it against him.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:32 PM
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14. Agree, will Obama speak out or let this rumor continue? n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:31 PM
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13. Huffington Post is turning into a shitty site
. This reads like something you see on some BS RW site
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nonsequitur Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:34 PM
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16. This pisses me off! Same old shit.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:57 PM
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20. Not so fast... go to huff post and look at the "memo" link attached
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 12:00 AM
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21. You got trolled, son! nt
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