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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:30 PM
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Scalia says he would have voted in favor of segregation in 1954
Scalia On Brown v. Board Of Education: I Would Have Dissented

In an appearance at the University of Arizona College of Law, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said that if he were on the court in 1954, he would have dissented in the landmark Brown vs. Board of Education decision that ended school segregation based on race.

Appearing on stage with Justice Stephen Breyer, Scalia cautioned against "inventing new rights nobody ever thought existed." Scalia said he advocates an "originalist" approach to the Constitution, warning against an "evolutionary" legal philosophy that he described as, "close your eyes and decide what you think is a good idea.''

Phoenix's East Valley Tribune reported:

Using his "originalist'' philosophy, Scalia said he likely would have dissented from the historic 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision that declared school segregation illegal and struck down the system of "separate but equal'' public schools. He said that decision, which overturned earlier precedent, was designed to provide an approach the majority liked better.

"I will stipulate that it will,'' Scalia said. But he said that doesn't make it right. "Kings can do some stuff, some good stuff, that a democratic society could never do,'' he continued.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/27/scalia-on-brown-v-board-o_n_335591.html
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:32 PM
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1. Why does he NOT surprise me?
:eyes:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:36 PM
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3. Using his "originalist'' philosophy, Scalia would have supported slavery as well
What a POS!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:36 PM
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2. I wish I could wish him away. What a thug. nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:37 PM
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4. Why do people describe him as brilliant? nt
:shrug:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:37 PM
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5. "Oh yeah, and negroes? Still 3/5ths of a person."
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:49 PM
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19. 3/5s of a person was to eventually end slavery
Not keep it going. In this case, if slavery couldn't be abolished at the country's founding so as to get the south to sign on, less was more. The North didn't want them counted at all while the South wanted them counted as a full person. It was about representation in the House, where the number of representatives the state has is determined by population. Count slaves as a full person and the South dominates the House.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:37 PM
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6. Scalia is a very religious man
Enough reason for anyone to join the ranks of clear-minded atheists...
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:39 PM
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7. And in other news, water is wet.
Scalia, the literal son of a fascist, would have voted for fascist apartheid. What's truly sad is that Clarence Thomas probably would have voted with him, just like he does on everything.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:40 PM
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8. Update...report incorrect according to TPM...
Scalia actually said he would have dissented in Plessy v. Ferguson...

If true it puts him on the correct side of the issue I believe...

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/10/telling_revelation.php#more?ref=fpblg
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:48 PM
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11. Somewhat relieving to hear. Too bad he was on the wrong side of so many other decisions, though
Bush v. Gore comes to mind........
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:03 AM
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20. That makes a bit more sense, considering this comment he made:
"He said that decision, which overturned earlier precedent, was designed to provide an approach the majority liked better."

In Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), the U.S. Supreme Court decided that a Louisiana law mandating separate but equal accommodations for blacks and whites on intrastate railroads was constitutional. This decision provided the legal foundation to justify many other actions by state and local governments to socially separate blacks and whites. Plessy v. Ferguson was overturned in 1954 by Brown v. Board of Education.

http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/acs/1890s/plessy/plessy.html
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:42 PM
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9. What a jackass. No one has invented any "new rights."
All we did was realize that when the original framers said that "all men are created equal," their original words
should be interpreted "strictly," and not in the limited constraints of the day. Or would Scalia also advocate returning
the Louisiana purchase to France and Alaska to Russia?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:08 PM
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15. Dissent from Plessy, not Brown...
Plessy created "new rights" for states, and people, to legally discriminate against people. Scalia didn't agree.

Stopped watch and all that...
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:43 PM
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10. ...and of course, he'll support corporations having the full rights of people. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:57 PM
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12. Well, too bad they began letting Catholics in Harvard, Yale, Columbia and major league baseball. nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 09:49 PM
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13. You sure about that.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:02 PM
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14. The Klan doesn't need sheets anymore. They are just right out there all over the place.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:22 PM
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16. The paper retracted the story. They were wrong.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:49 PM
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17. Scalia voted to begin construction of the death star
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:16 PM
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18. Why do I get the feeling he wanted to prevent Obama's birth?!
Ahhh...what a problem for being of mixed race in this country. That's why mum can't understand. We're of mixed race from Haiti...and there is none of this shite my mum says.
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