What does the GOP propose for people without or with incomplete HEALTHCARE COVERAGE

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Yesterday and they day before on MSBC covered sad stories about people not being covered even though they had health insurance. My family has been in a situation like this too.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33441437/ns/health-health_c... /

BUT WHAT DOES THE GOP TELL THESE PEOPLE?

What solution do they have for people who owe thousands in debt for health bills because their insurance company won't pay?

I don't hear a solution from them.

All I hear is how reform is going to contribute to the national debt.

How do we call them out?

[Captain Hilts]

1. If your deductible is $10K you shouldn't consider yourself 'insured'. nt

[CTyankee]

2. Well, how did they get themselves in this fix in the first place?

How can we do anything for people who won't take care of themselves?

How bout a tax credit, anybody?

No? It won't work, you say?

Oh, hell don't bother me with this stuff...(stalks off in a huff...)

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. The GOP doesn't give a damn...

They'd rather see people die, than have affordable healthcare coverage.

And I agree, they do need to be called out on this.

:grr:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

5. we need people to go on TV calling the GOP out on this

[mdmc]

4. The solution is easy. The GOP (and the USA) are all about easy answers

The GOP plan is simple -
1. Get health insurance.
2. Go to the ER if you don't have insurance.
3. Pray to be healed.
4. Die and meet your maker.

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America will have a hard time dealing with this issue. The answers are not easy. The solutions are hard. And Americas don't care about much except themselves.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. but but don't we have a right to healthcare?

http://www.righttohealthcare.org/Docs/DocumentsA.htm

[mdmc]

31. We need a second bill of rights for that

FDR said so..

Without out it we have the right to pursue treatment, not to treatment itself.

[Lucy Goosey]

6. I think the idea is...

Rich people deserve better care than poor people. If you can't afford to pay for your own health care, that itself is proof positive that you don't deserve healthcare. If everyone would just accept that, there would be no need for healthcare reform!

[IndianaGreen]

7. Die quickly!

A for-profit health care system will always kill people, and deny claims on any pretext. This is what you get from capitalism. Why are you so surprised?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. The GOP's 'head should be put on the block'

[OHdem10]

9. Conservatives do not believe Health Care should be a function

of the Government. They have been doing everything they
can to get rid of any safety net program since FDR and LBJ.

If your basic belief and philosophy holds that it is not
the duty of government to provide such services, it is
hard to offer up a Health Care Plan.

They have a problem because many of their constituents
want Health Care.

They deal with this problem by doing double speak and demonizing
the Democrats plan.

Liberty--individualism---Individuals responsible for taking care of
themselves.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

10. Then seniors should be scared that the GOP want to get rid of Medicare

lets see the GOP manifesto of privatization

[Thrill]

11. I believe Rep. Grayson already told us what their solution is.

[subterranean]

12. They have no solution because they don't believe there's a problem.

They think if you have $30,000 in medical debt and only make $30,000 a year, well, that's your fault because you didn't work harder to get a better job. Or you should have saved more money. Republicon politicians say with a straight face that Americans already have universal health care because the ER can't turn you away.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

14. So the GOP is at fault for running up huge bills at the ER

[Hekate]

21. In a word: Yes. I wonder if they really envision turning bleeding people away at the ER door...

... because some of their ranting heads skirt around that the way they talk about illegal aliens and people who don't "take responsibility for themselves."

Hekate

[Rosa Luxemburg]

30. they are heartless so they probably would turn them away

[rgbecker]

13. Take a look at the Brad Blog report of the tea bagger express II send off.

Its simple. If you don't have insurance, you go to the county hospital where you have be treated and the tax payers will take of the bill. The teabaggers love it. Free enterprise at its best. Try it sometime. Go to the hospital, when they ask for your insurance card tell them you don't have any and see what happens. Report back. Should be good. Where's the popcorn?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. so the teabaggers would happily pay all these millions for treatment at the ER?

[rgbecker]

17. They didn't look all that happy, but that's their program!

Their eyes glazed over as they tried to figure out what they were saying....worth watching.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. they are like kind of drones

[toocoolforschool]

19. i think the gop has solutions for reform, not an over haul, it just doesn't get coverage.

[Hekate]

20. It doesn't get coverage because it doesn't exist. GOP input for writing the bills is nil...

All they have done is obfuscate, delay, and lie.

Period.

Oh, btw, welcome to DU.

Hekate

[subterranean]

22. Would you care to clue us in?

I know they want to let insurance companies sell insurance across state lines. Is there anything else?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

23. yes it wants to privatize ALL aspects of healthcare and everything else

no deal for seniors, unemployed, and the sick. No welfare, no hand outs.

[Cass]

24. All I have ever heard from them is tort reform, buying across state lines and neighbors helping each

other. This is not a plan by any stretch of the imagination. They have no workable solutions and have no intention of voting for any solutions. They are only interested in playing politics by obstructing anything and everything proposed by democrats.

One thing confuses me though. It's not only democrats who get screwed by insurance companies, or who can't afford health insurance...it affects republicans, too. I'm not talking about politicians or the wealthy, I'm talking about working class republicans who have no access to health care. How can these republicans who need health care reform not support it? Are they that deluded that they believe the propaganda being spewed by GOP politicians and simply ignore their own experiences? Or is their hatred for all things democratic so overwhelming that they would refuse to support a plan that could help them simply because it is proposed by democrats?

I'd like to see someone in the media interview republicans and conservatives who have no access to health care and ask them what they are thinking about their party's positions and actions in the health care debate. And they can exclude the medicare recipients who are adamantly opposed to socialized medicine because they have already have a public option. I want to see working republicans who have no health insurance asked about this.

edit: typos due to posting before the caffeine kicks in

[old mark]

25. GOP is concerned with the insurance business, not the sick.

So is Joe Liberman and Senator Bayh, who has strong ties to the business.

mark

[Rosa Luxemburg]

26. how can we be bipartisan when this is the case

[old mark]

32. The only people really concerned about being "bipartisan" are some

deomcrats. The republicans and not serious about helping the country at all, just want power, publicity, money.

mark

[ItNerd4life]

27. Read John Mackeys proposal, you know the CEO of whole foods

He does offer options other than government doing the work, he recommends government oversee the work.

Kind of like the government does with our food. Government doesn't run the food productions, it sets the framework
so that food is produced in a competitive environment.

However, the government does provide food stamps to help
people who can't afford to buy their own food. I have NO problems with this approach.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

29. Kind of

if the private entitities were hospital systems, labs, imaging centers etc but not insurance companies.

[quantass]

28. Die Quickly nt