Obama: I’m “Pleased” That House Health Care Bill Has Public Option

[babylonsister]

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/president-obama/obama-im-pleased-that-house-health-care-bill-has-public-option/

Obama: I’m “Pleased” That House Health Care Bill Has Public Option


Obama’s statement on the passage of the House health care bill explicitly singles out the public option as one of the bill’s primary achievements:

The House legislation includes critical reforms to the insurance industry, so that Americans will no longer have to worry that they will be denied coverage, or that their coverage will be dropped or watered down when they need it most. I’m also pleased that the bill includes a public option offered in an exchange. As I’ve said throughout this process, a public option that competes with private insurers is the best way to ensure choice and competition that are so badly needed in today’s market. And the House bill clearly meets two of the fundamental criteria I have set out: it is fully paid for and will reduce the deficit in the long term.

Nancy Pelosi has delivered a House bill with a real, live public plan in it, albeit not the one preferred by progressives. Harry Reid has announced his intention to put one in the Senate bill. Now the question becomes whether Obama will step in and get it across the finish line.

[freddie mertz]

1. It sucks, and we can thank the WH for that.

What a disappointment.

[babylonsister]

3. I think it's a helluva lot better than what's been available or what

idiot son ever offered. I'm about to not have insurance and do have a pre-existing condition, so I'm grateful.

[dionysus]

6. it is a definite improvement. but the Failers will be howling full force in minutes.

[babylonsister]

9. I know, and that's okay. I think this is historic myself.

:fistbump:

[John Q. Citizen]

35. Oh it's historic. But so was the Iraq war vote. And they share some simularities.

Both "pro" groups claim humanitarian motivations.

Both votes bestow huge economic benefits on certain non-productive corporations. (defense in the first and insurance in the later)

And the followers of the people pushing both votes are positive the motivations of their leaders are pure and that there is no alternative which can be realistically pursued. Both groups of followers are positive it must be done and it must be done now or all is lost.

The bush initiative went totally wrong when he refused the UN Arms inspectors a seat at the table. As a result, the whole initiative went horribly and completely wrong.

The Obama administration made the same mistake by refusing the 100 million Americans who support single payer a place at the table to present their views. They were silenced.


I happen to think both initiatives are/were wrong and both will have long term bad consequences.


I don't expect you to see that. In fact, the true believers never waiver. Look at Iraq. The believers still believe. And you will too, long after this insurance company bailout blows up in your face.

[chimpymustgo]

44. John Q, you have NAILED it. "Believers still believe", be it health "reform" or "freeing" Iraq.

[babylonsister]

51. Go piss and moan elsewhere. Better yet, start your own thread

and piss and moan; you'll have plenty of company.

[Arkana]

12. Don't do this.

Seriously.

It starts what I like to call the "Cycle of Shit".

1) OP posts something good that President Obama's just done.
2) One of the earliest replies is "Well, this is excellent news, but the Hate Obama First crowd will be screaming IT'S NOT ENOUGH within moments!"
3) Reply to that reply is "Excuuuuuuuuse me for not blindly supporting the President!"
4) Reply to THAT reply is "Well, my good chum, you have a POSTING HISTORY of posting negative threads about President Obama!"

And so on. Eventually, the thread devolves into something lower than shit and Skinner dies a little inside.

Don't do this. The President's done many good things, but there are many good things he's promised to do that he hasn't done yet.

[dionysus]

14. i'll leave it alone but you know it'll happen all day, see reply #1 and any thread about this

[mkultra]

20. come on, take out steps 2-4 and the cycle of shit still exists

The new step 2 is just the howlers complaining.

[Cha]

19. And, isn't it a start

that can be added on to? With all the forces of evil against any kind of improvement it seems like it's a good start.

[msallied]

26. Same here. I choose to view this as a positive step forward.

I'm tired of the effing debbie downers around here. Honestly, people could find cause to criticize everything.

[dionysus]

4. yeah, that mean old obama was supposed to fix generations of problems all by himself. get a grip.

if you stepped on dog shit you'd blame him for it.

[sharp_stick]

17. Yeah right... whatever n/t

[Thrill]

41. No you can thank the Blue Dog Democrats. Who have been a problem for the party

Since Reagan.

[John Q. Citizen]

45. When Obama invited the insurance lobby and disinvited the single payer advocates to the table

it became crystal clear to anyone paying attention that what would be packaged and sold as reform would in reality be an insurance industry bonanza.

That's what the current bill is.

There is a lot of blame to go around, some of it to the blue dogs.
But Obama is also to blame. As soon as he cut his back-room deals with the insurance industry and big pharma, and the hospitals, it became clear.

What was going to be packaged and sold as reform, was in fact going to be a bonanza for the health care industrial complex.


This bill is very much like Romney Care, what they have in MA. Romney Care is failing. MA has some of the most expensive insurance rates in the country, and people are having their benefits cut because it's unaffordable.

I didn't vote for Romney, and I don't want Romney Care. It's another bogus market based solution that doesn't work. No!

[Thrill]

47. Single Payer is not a Reality.

Just seeing how hard it is to get a Public Option goes to show how unrealistic Single Payer is in this country.

Unless there is strong Campaign Finance Reform, there will never be Single Payer. Too much of Congress is in their pockets. Its reality. Its still hard for some to see it though.

[John Q. Citizen]

49. I'm no longer voting for them. That's what the upshot is. Until people say no, they will continue to

screw us.

I don't blame the insurance industry for bribing our law makers, since it's legal to commit bribery if you are an insurance company, and I don't blame the Democrats for taking the bribes and doing their bidding, since it's legal also.

I blame myself and the other voters who would actually cast a vote for these criminal pricks.

No more.

I really don't need Obama to get us Romney Care after all do I? I would have voted for Romney if I wanted Romney Care.

[dionysus]

2. duck for cover...

:hide:

[ej510]

5. I am insulted by that comment.

[babylonsister]

7. Of course you are. And you won't be alone. I'm encouraged. nt

[freddie mertz]

8. The usual attacks change nothing.

The bill still sucks.

[mecherosegarden]

11. Did you read the whole thing?

I am still reading it.... I guess than I am a slow reader !

:popcorn:

[avaistheone1]

10. Well at least Obama didn't promote anything radical like single payer

which would have really addressed our health care needs.

:sarcasm:

[mkultra]

22. my sympathies on your missing pony.

[avaistheone1]

25. Got it. It is just a pony to you.

You are so very clever. 45,000 dead a year and millions of bankruptcies a result of the lack of health insurance. and you are comparing it to a someone not getting a stupid pony.

I suggest you take the pony out of your ass. It is interfering with your thinking.

[freddie mertz]

28. Pony people. Kinda like Zappa's "Po-Jama People.."

"Some people's hot
Some people's cold
Some people's not very
Swift to behold
Some people do it
Some see right through it
Some wear pyjamas
If only they knew it

The pyjama people are boring me to pieces
Feel like I am wasting my time
They all got flannel up 'n down 'em
A little trap-door back aroun' 'em
An' some cozy little footies on their mind

Po-jama people!
Po-jama people, people!
They sure do make you sleepy
With the things they might say
Po-jama people!
Po-jama people, people!
Mother Mary 'n Jozuf, I wish they'd all go away!

Po-jama people!
It's a po-jama people special . . .
Take one home with you, save a dollar today
Po-jama people!
Po-jama people, people!
Wrap 'em up
Roll 'em out
Get 'em out of my way
Hein nya-nya-hein nya-nya-hein nya-nya-hein
HOEY! HOEY! HOEY!
Wrap 'em up
Roll 'em out
Get 'em out of my way
Hein nya-nya-hein nya-nya-hein nya-nya-hein
HOEY! HOEY! HOEY!
Wrap 'em up
Roll 'em out
Get 'em out of my way
Hein nya-nya-hein nya-nya-hein nya-nya-hein
HOEY! HOEY! HOEY!

(Well . . . ) now some people's hot
An' some people's cold
(Well, Lawd . . . ) an' some people's not very
(Very) swift to behold (swifty!)
(I told you) some people do it (do it!)
(Yes, they do!) (No . . . )
Some see right through it
(See right through it!)
An' some wear PO-JAMAS
If only they knew it

The pyjama people are boring me to pieces
They make me feel like I am wasting my time
They all got flannel up 'n down 'em
A little trap-door back aroun' 'em
An' some cozy little footies on their mind

Po-jama people!
Po-jama people, people!
Lawd, they make you sleepy
With the things they might say (hey, yeah-hey . . . )
Po-jama people!
(Well . . . now) Po-jama people, people!
(I said) ARF! ARF! ARF!
I wish they'd all go away!

Po-jama people! (People!) (Oh, yeah)
Po-jama people special . . .
(I said, I said, I said)
Take one home with you, & save a dollar today
Po-jama people!
(It's a) Po-jama people, people! (Special)
Wrap 'em up
An' roll 'em out
Get 'em out of my way
HOEY! HOEY! HOEY!
Wrap 'em up
An' roll 'em out
Get 'em out of my way
HOEY! HOEY! HOEY!
Wrap 'em up
Roll 'em out
Get 'em out of my way
HOEY! HOEY! HOEY!

(YEAH-HA-HA!)

[avaistheone1]

29. On the mark.

Good one. lol

[mkultra]

31. yes, your ideological drive for SP is a pony

[John Q. Citizen]

43. Now now, don't be a pony phony hone'.

[John Q. Citizen]

27. Equating quality affordable accessable health care with frivolous desire is moronic and

it's really cold blooded.

I'm glad we aren't related except distantly. I don't think I like your attitude.

[mkultra]

30. yes,. SP is a pony

i know you where all prepared to read to and brush your pony's hair. But maybe next Christmas.

[avaistheone1]

32. lol. You are the ultimate cynic and hypocrite. Perhaps you should read that

quote you have posted next to your name and take it to heart.

And maybe there will be some compassion, and common sense found under your Christmas tree.

[mkultra]

33. Pony

[avaistheone1]

34. Hope you get that pony out of there.

Must be darn uncomfortable for you.

[John Q. Citizen]

37. Ponyism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings.

[avaistheone1]

40. ^5

:kick:

[Thrill]

38. Seeing how damn hard it was to get a Public Option

Just goes to show just how unrealistic Single Payer is in this country

[BklnDem75]

13. This doesn't belong here...

It has a named source and an actual quote. What the hell is going on here!?!

[HopeOverFear]

21. LOL

[jefferson_dem]

15. But not a word about my pony!

:grr:

[John Q. Citizen]

16. Yep, we got the teensy weensy PO instead of the teeny tiny one. Why don't i feel like celebrating?

[quantass]

24. And this is BEFORE it gets really watered down (even more) when merged. nt

[John Q. Citizen]

18. Health insurance stocks are way up today, so it's easy to see who won what.

[quantass]

23. I gambled right and making some nice cash today (politicians are predictable) *sigh*

i am happy and sad at the same time since i would have preferred to have lost money today and had a descent bill rather than be making a huge profit (stock prices) and a lousy bill. This 5% change theme is getting kinda predictable.

[ej510]

36. The democratic party is a corporate run party.

[Thrill]

39. Both Parties are. Until their is Strong Campaign Finance Reform

It will continue to be

[NYC_SKP]

42. kick rec nt

[andym]

46. How is he going to force force Joe L. to cooperate?

Refuse to allow him to speak at the Democratic convention? Oh wait....

[freddie mertz]

50. Reconciliation?

Remember THAT one?

Oh well, the big money wins again and we are all the losers.

No change, nothing to believe in but more of the same old shit.

[earth mom]

48. Obama just lost 2012. nt

[Thrill]

52. LOL

[dana_b]

55. nah

a lot more people don't pay attention than do. I'm with you on this one in that I think it's a ahitty bill and a giant win for our corporate overlords, but there are many, many people out there who think as long as Obama is in office, they don't have to pay attention.

[Teaser]

56. fail

.

[Honeycombe8]

53. He keeps his detailed opinions on healthcare reform close to the vest.

There must be some reason for that. But I would think that behind the scenes, he and his staff are making calls left and right (er, I mean left and left), letting people know what the White House would "like." And he lets Pelosi and Reid do the down and gritty work of getting people aligned and hashing out details.

I hope Obama has dropped his expectations of being able to work with those on the right, now that he's seen what they're all about: not the country, not the citizens.

[bigwillq]

54. I'll be pleased

when the final bill has a robust public option.