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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:04 PM
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Our Obama just can't stop dancing with ABUSE

Sometimes a psychological explanation of politics is more vivid and revealing than any sort of political analysis.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/w-hunter-roberts/obama-abuse_b_333041.html">Check this out on HuffPo:

As Eugene Robinson noted in the Washington Post, "If Obama ended world hunger, they'd accuse him of promoting obesity." This is the classic dilemma faced by victims of abuse. No matter what the victim does, they’ll be criticized ...or worse. The verbiage being hurled at President Obama sounds, to my twenty five years of counseling-trained ears, more like the rhetoric of abuse than of political discourse. An abusive relationship consists, not of respectful, or even heated, discussion between peers over an issue of mutual concern. Rather, one party puts the other down, and makes unfounded accusations regarding the motives, character, or abilities of their partner, which go far beyond any issue at hand. The accused party, confounded by the bizarre allegations, responds by attempting to answer, or appease, the accuser. When this happens, the parties are doing the dance of abuse and appeasement. In this dance, the abuser will never acknowledge anything done "right", or accept any compromise. This keeps the victim off balance, walking on egg shells, never knowing which way to turn to avoid further criticism and humiliation. No matter what the victim does to try to please, it will not satisfy an abuser. That’s because it’s not about the issue at hand, it’s about power and control. Abuse is unpredictable because the issue is merely a ploy. The abuser does not want to be satisfied. He is looking for an excuse or justification to abuse.
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We can see this dynamic in operation over health care reform. The Republicans called it socialized medicine. So the Democrats, trying to be reasonable, took Single Payer off the table and even removed the public option. To hell with what the citizens wanted, Democrats were busy trying to appease their accuser, "See, what we want isn’t socialized medicine—look we’ll prove it. We’ll remove anything that could possibly look like that." That could have been a compromise in good faith, if the Republicans had accepted it. But they did not. Instead they did what abusers always do. They came up with another accusation," You’re trying to kill grandma!" (Abusers often become increasingly irrational in their accusations, as each previous objection is answered.) They compared healthcare reform to a Nazi plan, and accused the Democrats of plotting to kill newborns and disabled children. Democrats continued their appeasement tactics, still trying to get a bi-partisan bill. If you know anything about abuse, you know that was never going to happen. Why not? Because, from the point of view of an abuser, the other person is not just doing something wrong, which theoretically s/he could correct. They are something wrong - fundamentally wrong. Like black. Or female. Or gay. Or child. Or liberal. Or Hutu. Take your pick — it could be any "other." Wrong by definition. Irrevocably and irredeemably bad and wrong.
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If someone is, de facto, bad and wrong, then anything positive they do or get must be a mistake. Ergo, the Nobel Prize is, paradoxically, both worthless and undeserved. If Obama got it, the logic goes, since he is worthless, the prize must be worthless. But if it has value, Obama is such a piece of shit that he should give it back - like a child caught shoplifting... The RNC, Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh do not merely disagree with the President’s policies. They impugn his character, his citizenship, his patriotism, and his very being. Obama cannot do anything right, because, from their perspective, who he is, is wrong. Period.
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There is only one thing to do in the face of abuse: refuse to play your role. An abuser cannot abuse unless their partner is willing to appease, for the sake of the relationship, or for the sake of bi-partisanship, which is the same thing. ...Appeasement, ironically, enrages the abuser more and adds to his disrespect. As counter-intuitive as it may seem, appeasement feeds the cycle of abuse. An abuser is like a drunk. You don’t argue with a drunk. ... You must walk away, without appeasing or returning the abuse, and do what you think is right.

Full Huffington Post article http://www.huffingtonpost.com/w-hunter-roberts/obama-abuse_b_333041.html">here.

The complete article has many more examples of the http://www.huffingtonpost.com/w-hunter-roberts/obama-abuse_b_333041.html">things abusers typically say compared with quotes from conservatives.

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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:12 PM
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1. abusers/bullies...appeasing bullies doesn't stop em; just encourages more and worse bullying
we need a party full of Alan Graysons. Saw a great quote on DU some time back....in World war 2, bi-partisanship was called collaboration...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:16 PM
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2. There are bullies on both sides......
Like Wanda Sykes stated on CNN when asked if she supported Obama although he was being slow on Gay rights...."It's like someone giving you CPR to bring you back to life and then you complaint that his breath stinks"......

That is happening right here, each and everyday....

even in the way Obama is criticized by stating he is in a abusive relationship! He is....but not just with the Rightwing crowd.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:46 PM
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4. Hmm is that why
Two minutes ago this topic was off to the greatest page but now it seems it has sunk. Do some people see themselves in this analysis? A little too close to home? I do not normally complain about people who rec or unrec. I think it is a great function for a website. Especially for those of us who are just lazy. However, I have to wonder who would unrec this thread. IMO, the analysis is spot on when it comes to Republicans. This is how they work. This is how they brought Kerry down. Using his strengths against him and blaming him for the outcome.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:54 PM
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6. Well, "Is this the change I can believe in?" is a truly bipartisan come back....
Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 10:58 PM by FrenchieCat
So, I'm not sure if it is just Republicans....but yes, they are a very clear and consistent example of how an abuser works, certainly.

However, I don't believe that the President is such a victim here.....I think he chooses to continue to "try" to unite this country not so much because he has any real faith in Republican congresscritters, but much more because it is part of the platform he ran on, and I think that he believes that he can peel off the reasonable ones over time (as they start to feel the change more and more), while the rank of the abusers shrink down.

He's in it for the long haul, and I don't believe that his strategy was to become President of the Democrats on January 20th. That would be too easy, and wouldn't really change much in a long run, as the Republicans would be even more up in arms, and they could point to the fact that this President wouldn't be doing what he'd say he would do; try and unite Sane America with kind of sane America.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:33 PM
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3. I agree completely
I've seen abusive characteristics in Republican leaders and the hate radio & TV personalities for years.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:49 PM
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5. The efforts toward bipartisanship are no more directed at the far right than they are to the left...
.... it's all about the heaving middle.

If national politics were football, the middle would BE the ball, with either team trying to carry it in the direction they're trying to go.

Those who are offended by this meme are going to have a long 8 years because it's not going anywhere.

According to some polls, the President has a personal favorability rating of 60% while the GOP is peaking in the high teens. This is due, in large part, to his very public efforts toward the mirage that is bipartisanship. What is "there is not a red America or a blue America but the UNITED STATES of America" if not an endorsement of this very ideal. And we're kidding ourselves if we claim that's NOT what hooked us.

Besides, as Rahm so aptly put it last winter, "we dont have to succeed at bipartisanship, we just have to TRY."
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